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Re: Ships from best to worst
« Reply #60 on: August 16, 2003, 09:25:22 am »

Yep. I agree with you. That's why I love the mycon. But one little change in it.... The chmmr avatar, you can't beat it unless it starts near the plant so he isn't moving for the entire battle.
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« Reply #61 on: August 16, 2003, 10:23:23 am »

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Yep. I agree with you. That's why I love the mycon. But one little change in it.... The chmmr avatar, you can't beat it unless it starts near the plant so he isn't moving for the entire battle.


Try circling it...sometimes you can do it, sometimes you can't...but you can usually circle the Chmmr as long as you have to...that's why it's on the position I'm in...I've beat an active Chmmr about 20% of the time with the Mycon doing that.
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« Reply #62 on: August 16, 2003, 10:28:42 am »

When you do it. The chmmr uses his special ability and you are history. The mycon has high max speed, but bad thrusters and turning rate. Not a chance against the avatar.
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« Reply #63 on: August 16, 2003, 10:32:37 am »

Have you tried it?  Like I said I win about 20% of the time doing that and hurt the Chmmr badly about 40-50% of the time otherwise...the big challenge is not getting blown away entirely...usually I end up with about 3/4 of my crew gone when I get in close...but after I start circling I can do it infinitely against the computer on awesome.  That's the point of that 2nd column - you can sometimes win, but most of the time you won't.
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« Reply #64 on: August 16, 2003, 12:20:45 pm »

When you move foward with your back to the avatar, he uses the special ability. When you try to circle him he does the same. I know from expirence orz vs. chmmr. Orz wins because he has more turning rate and faster thrusters( And no, you don't have to move the turret)
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« Reply #65 on: August 16, 2003, 11:45:07 pm »

A.I on awesome is pretty stupid at times. Against a human player a Mycon Podship has no chance only thing you could do is put a big dent on the Avatar. Personally, I think the Mycon Podships are the most overrated ship against human players. There are only a handful of ships that the podship can outright crush. Most the other matchups are difficult requring some skill or impossible.
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« Reply #66 on: August 18, 2003, 01:42:46 pm »

Quick Question:

Would a win with Shofixti Glory Device count as a win in favor of the Shofixti? (it's victory ditty plays)

If I Recall Correctly, the Glory Device can kill a Mycon in one blow without having to be at point blank range.

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« Reply #67 on: August 18, 2003, 08:44:22 pm »

Since both ships are destroyed there won't be any victory music but the shofixi ship lost the battle for a simple reason. You choose the next ship before your opponent does. The one who "lost" first always chooses first.(After a long fight you finally beat the koar-ah ship, but wait, what is this black spinning thing? oh ****.... Wink).
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« Reply #68 on: August 19, 2003, 05:09:11 pm »

Sorry Jiffa but you're way off base there. If a Shofixti kills an enemy with the Glory Device then the game does play the Shofixti victory ditty. Try it sometime against an idle human opponent if you need to.
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« Reply #69 on: August 19, 2003, 05:30:35 pm »

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If I Recall Correctly, the Glory Device can kill a Mycon in one blow without having to be at point blank range.
Yes, IF the Mycon is in a bad shape already (half crew down).

BTW: How is the damage the Glory Device makes calculated???
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« Reply #70 on: August 19, 2003, 07:47:15 pm »

I have no clue, but it roughly goes like this: the closer you are, the more damage you will do.
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« Reply #71 on: August 19, 2003, 09:22:18 pm »

... by virtue of that knowledge, then, do you not in fact have a clue?
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« Reply #72 on: August 19, 2003, 09:58:19 pm »

No I don't. I DON'T have a clue how to calculate it, but it is obvious that the closer the explosion is, the more damage you will do.
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« Reply #73 on: August 19, 2003, 11:48:41 pm »

Well, don't know the exact calcations for the Glory Device maybe, one of people working the code can reveal it. But, the Glory Deivce seems to do up to 16 damage when your up close and personal to 1 damage when your about 2 small screens away.
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Re: Ships from best to worst
« Reply #74 on: August 20, 2003, 01:53:48 pm »

Yeah. 16 sounds about right. Takes almost 1/3 of an Ur-QuanKzer0za Dreadnaught's crew off.

I dunno if there are bonuses if you wedge yourself inside a ship somehow (Spathi, Chenjesu, et al) but I doubt it.

A Mycon has, what, about 20 Crew? Fire a few blasts, skitter around, and hopefully kill it before it recovers 4 additional crew...

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