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Favorite Ship Layout?
« on: August 23, 2003, 02:25:11 pm »

What is everyones favorite ship layout in sc2? I personnaly like a hellbore at the front 5 shiva's behind it, with 3 tracking systems, then 2 super fuel tanks, with 4 crew pods behind that, and a small ion cannon at the back.
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Re: Favorite Ship Layout?
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2003, 07:15:10 pm »

My layout is typically (from front-to-back): Hellbore, hellbore, shiva, shiva, shiva, shiva, shiva, track, track, crew, hi-fuel, PDL, xxx, xxx, xxx (where xxx is either storage bays or shivas or a mix of those two).

The exceptions for this are:
- The beginning of the game has a preference towards cargo bays and fuel tanks, but that's just as well since I normally haven't acquired the Melnorme's tech yet.
- Visiting the Druuge takes the layout of hi-fuel * 15.
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« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2003, 09:03:34 pm »

For the my dreadnought killer setup when I collected a lot of RUs: Hellbore, Hellbore, ATS, dyamio, dyamio, dyamio, crew pod, cargo bay, crew pod, shiva, shiva, shiva, shiva, shiva, hi-fuel, hi fuel. This setup anhillnates any almost ship you face except for the Utwig Jugger giving you near-contiunous fire.
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Re: Favorite Ship Layout?
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2003, 09:22:50 pm »

Actually, you can trick the utwigs' ships just like you trick the yehats' ships.
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Re: Favorite Ship Layout?
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2003, 10:19:36 pm »

My Dreadnaught-killer config consists of the following:

Crew Pod
Hellbore Cannon
Tracking Sytem
Point Defense
Dynamo Unit (3)
Shiva Furnace (8)
Hi-Eff Fuel

Using this configuration I can continuously fire for much longer than I would need to actually kill something. I also have a strong tendancy to have spare ships with large crews (like Spathi or Utwig) for spare bodies so that I can stay in the slice of Ur-Quan space just beyond Betelgeuse for very extended periods. Though the tracking is not perfect, it gets the job done as long as I'm in range, and the Point Defense will prevent a Dreadnaught or Nemesis from launching anything at you (even when idle)! Very handy and makes harvesting Ur-Quan hulls for resources much less painful.

Using this config I've come about as close as I can get to having 0 drain on my batteries while firing. The only way I'd probably to actually attain that would be to lose either the PDL or, even worse, the tracking system. Both of these seem like worthless sacrifices, considering how quickly I annihilate large groups of "resources".
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« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2003, 08:35:18 am »

Personally, I think that PDLs are pretty useless since your flagship is considered to be a 'fastship' when you have every thruster maxed. You can simply outrun the fighters/marines or blast them to atoms with my setup.
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« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2003, 08:42:58 am »

I can do outrunning, but I most definately hate when a Dreadnaught warps in really close to me, and annihilates me at close range. I like to prepare for such contingencies.
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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2003, 09:04:37 am »

My long-term battle setup - of course, I run about 3 or 4 other setups in the game depending on what I'm doing at the time.

Hellbore Cannon (2) - both in front
Tracking Modules (2)
Crew Pod (2)
PDL (1)
HD Fuel Tank (1)
Shiva Furnaces (5)
Dynamos (3)

I can hold the fire button down and fire out continuously...you need two tracking modules to make the hellbore in the second position curl around tight enough...

And to the others who didn't post dynamos in their setup, as explained in here, the dynamos have a different function than the shiva furnaces.  You can have a max of 3 dynamos in your ship and not be wasteful (the 4th is a waste and gets you NOTHING).  Each dynamo increases the amount of energy regenerated per cycle.  Each shiva furnace doubles the amount of energy regenerated.  If you search there's long dissertations and mathematical formulas about this that have been posted long ago in this board.

The PDL does help...why run from their little presents when you can just blow their ship out of the sky without worrying at all?
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Re: Favorite Ship Layout?
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2003, 12:10:46 pm »

My setup is Hellbore, Hellbore, PDS (this nifty tool makes sure the Dreadnaughts never fire those damn fighters, even though I'd use the PDS nowhere else), tracking, tracking, tracking, crewpod, fuel, then the entire rest of the ship devoted to Shivas.  Nothing can survive three seconds of sustained fire with this baby.
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Re: Favorite Ship Layout?
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2003, 12:16:08 pm »

 
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And to the others who didn't post dynamos in their setup, as explained in here, the dynamos have a different function than the shiva furnaces.

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I thought they all just added to "Combat Energy" of the ship?

Gah. I should honestly load a game and check for myself before I posted this, but it'll have to wait until morning.

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Re: Favorite Ship Layout?
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2003, 01:31:59 pm »

Captain Smith is right. If I'm not mistaken, you can also find the details in the interesting facts section of the pages of now and forever. If I'm not mistaken again, the fact was written by meep-eep, and the best energy setting is three dynamos and the rest shivas.

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Re: Favorite Ship Layout?
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2003, 11:49:53 pm »

Here's the original message if you want to read where it was all hashed out: http://uqm.stack.nl/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Gendiscuss;action=display;num=1037334184;start=0#0
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Re: Favorite Ship Layout?
« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2003, 07:54:48 pm »

My favourite SIS-configuration:

Crew,
Hellbore,
ATS,
Shiva,
HiEffFu
CrystalAmplifiers
The cute 'don't-touch-it'-device
even more crystal amplifiers


Shortly after, the 'Big Trophy' (aka Sa-Matra) will have lost the different Ur-Quan Kzer-Za and Ur-Quan Kohr-Ah bodyguards and even some more seconds later it will be defenceless. Then I, Captain Krulle, of the Empire of Krulle (hey - I am the one with the big starship!) will board the ancient Precursor Starship, establish an UI with the Computer and will subjugate more than just the known parts of space!. HAR-HAR-HAR!
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Re: Favorite Ship Layout?
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2003, 03:15:56 am »

So you like the Super-Duper Glory Device eh?  A plan a Shofixti would love - you'd be surprised the Chmmr would come up with a plan like that.  Looking at that crew pod though I'd bet all you'd end up with is 50 Shofixti...heh.

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My favourite SIS-configuration:

Crew,
Hellbore,
ATS,
Shiva,
HiEffFu
CrystalAmplifiers
The cute 'don't-touch-it'-device
even more crystal amplifiers


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Re: Favorite Ship Layout?
« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2003, 07:41:53 am »

An idea welcomed by the Shofixti.
A device treasured by the Utwig.
A plan devised by the Chmmr.
In a ship piloted by a Human.

Whazzup wit' dat?? Roll Eyes

Ah well, humans can be funny at times. Just watch the old movie How I Came To Love the Bomb.

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