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Re: Official remix addon 1: Super Melee!
« Reply #30 on: October 30, 2003, 01:13:58 pm »

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The new Starbase music is a MASTERPIECE.


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« Reply #31 on: October 30, 2003, 03:44:29 pm »

I have finished listening to all of them, and what can I say, some where good, some were great and some need a little bit more work. But then again, I prefer these instead of the original ones. Great job remix team!

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When the full remix pack is about to be released? I know this one is just a sample, still missing the in-game music with aliens( unless I have missed them ) and the mid-battle music ( like fusion shots, unless you didn't plan to change those, and if you didn't I strongly recommand you to change. Like Nic said, and I agree with him 100%, the new music makes the "old" one to be even "older", it just doesn't fit there).

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I wish I could help you with these but unlike most of you, I played this game when I was 7 or some, and only 2 months ago I have started to learn how to program. I am not a musician too so please once again, I am sorry I just "complain" and don't help you instead Cry

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About the multiplayer game ( or should I post it in another thread?), how about creating a "new" game for it, thus not rewriting the whole game code, just the melee part? But again, I am not a programmer. But... If you will tell me how I can learn how to program this game without know c or c++ I will gladly help you with this project. Hope I will learn before you finish it Grin
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Re: Official remix addon 1: Super Melee!
« Reply #32 on: October 30, 2003, 03:53:32 pm »

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When the full remix pack is about to be released? I know this one is just a sample, still missing the in-game music with aliens( unless I have missed them )


The full remix pack *is* four different packs. You just put those different zip files to the same addon directory and then you got full pack.
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« Reply #33 on: October 30, 2003, 07:02:44 pm »

Ditties suck!  Angry  I like the other remixes but ditties are horrible. Aaaaaarghhh! I'll pray to PEEWEE that you change those horrible ditties back to the originals.
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« Reply #34 on: October 30, 2003, 07:19:44 pm »

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Ditties suck!  Angry  I like the other remixes but ditties are horrible. Aaaaaarghhh! I'll pray to PEEWEE that you change those horrible ditties back to the originals.


You can do it yourself by repacking the remix pack so that it suits you.
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« Reply #35 on: October 30, 2003, 07:39:43 pm »

I didn't like the ditties either. There is too much buzzing and weird noises. Flute in some ditties sounds ridiculous. Biggest disappointments must be both Ur-Quans' ditties. Now they don't sound like bad asses that they used to be. Only good ditties are Orz and Thraddash. Other remixes are good, but ditties are... worse than hot hot heat.
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« Reply #36 on: October 30, 2003, 10:02:38 pm »

Here is my review on ditties:

Ilwrath: Too high and bright sound. Too fast and it should have more bass.

Androsynth: Good

Arilou: Sound is bad.

Kohr-Ah: Bad sound, should be more threatening.

Chenjesu: Too fast and confusing.

Chmmr: First second was good, it should have lasted longer. Altough the original wasn't better.

Druuge: Good... "hiinä ja hiinä" -Juti

Hunam: Ending...nah... all else is good.

Melnorme: Backround bad, all else is moderate.

Mmrnmhrm: Too much techno, moderate.

Mycon: "Bow, bow, bow" -end is bad.

Orz: Good

Pkunk: Good

Shofixti: Good, but original ending is much better than this one's ending.

Spathi: Good

Supox: Bad ending.

Syreen: Original ending is better.

Kzer-Za: Should be more threatening. Too confusing and bad sound.

Utwig: Buzzing, bad sound.

Vux: Flute should not be used in ANY ditty.

Yehat: Bad sound and bad ending.

Zoq-fot: Bad ending, but all else is good.

Overall, victory music are average. Some of them are good but the rest is quite horrible.
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« Reply #37 on: October 30, 2003, 10:54:27 pm »

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Mmrnmhrm: Too much techno, moderate.

I would presume that their ditty has a techno edge because they are supposed to be machines.  What did you expect, a waltz?
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« Reply #38 on: October 30, 2003, 11:01:42 pm »

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I would presume that their ditty has a techno edge because they are supposed to be machines.  What did you expect, a waltz?


You are right, but they use TOO much techno compared to original and it sounds little confusing.

In Slylandro-ditty they are using flute. And Probe-captains are machines. Why don't they use techno-stuff there?
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« Reply #39 on: October 31, 2003, 12:10:26 am »

Probe ditty is nice pair for the actual remix (which has changed quite a bit from the version already published - to the better).

Mmrnmhrm was testing. I wanted to use drums more in one of the ditties, also it fits quite well with the feeling of Chmmr theme remix (coming later in other packs). The genre is industrial techno btw. Chenjesu is almost 1:1 tempo to the original if I recall. Although the original tempo was a bit problematic to reproduce right. So I took liberty of creative remix and wanted to bring chenjesu ditty sound into this millennium. Personally I think it's one of the best remixes I made of the ditties.

Syreen ending, yes it is different. Again, creative remixing, the original ending just didn't feel "right" to me. So changed it.

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« Reply #40 on: October 31, 2003, 12:24:13 am »

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Probe ditty is nice pair for the actual remix (which has changed quite a bit from the version already published - to the better).


Probe ditty is quite good buttttt... it doesn't fit to probe captains' personality. If you think it as slylandro gasbags' music then it's fine, but probe captains are machines, not gasbags.
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« Reply #41 on: October 31, 2003, 12:28:35 am »

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Probe ditty is quite good buttttt... it doesn't fit to probe captains' personality. If you think it as slylandro gasbags' music then it's fine, but probe captains are machines, not gasbags.


Check the extras pack for alternative probe ditty which I made. It's more true to the origina and sounds really like computer.
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« Reply #42 on: October 31, 2003, 01:03:50 am »

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Check the extras pack for alternative probe ditty which I made. It's more true to the origina and sounds really like computer.


I think that the alternative probe ditty is better for probe. It would be great if every body listen this alternative ditty and then tell their opinions about it.
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« Reply #43 on: October 31, 2003, 05:47:02 am »

Valterri, I have to disagree with you on most of the ditties. Are you sure nostalgia isn't clouding your judgement? No offense intended. But a lot of the ones you labeled "bad sound" are clearly much higher quality than the original.

Probe: Yep, alternative is better.

Ilwrath: I like it! Sounds much more menacing.

Androsynth: Awesome.

Arilou: Good.

Kohr-Ah: It suits the kohr-ah, but the "horror organ" is a bit cheesy.

Chenjesu: I agree, too confusing.

Chmmr: Never liked the first one, this one is worse.

Druuge: Good

Hunam: Very good

Melnorme: Decent

Mmrnmhrm: It's much better than the sc2 one, but it's still inferior to the sc1 mmrnmhrm ditty, which was vastly superior.

Mycon: Very good.

Orz: Good

Pkunk: Good

Shofixti: Very good

Spathi: Very good

Supox: Decent

Syreen: Good

Kzer-Za: Awesome, sounds very threatening

Utwig: Good

Vux: The alternative vux ditty is great!

Yehat: Decent

Zoq-fot: Decent

Thraddash: It's bad, but the original was horrible.
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Re: Official remix addon 1: Super Melee!
« Reply #44 on: October 31, 2003, 08:51:58 am »

The Umgah ditty reminds me of Toejam and Earl, actually.  Given that the fellows responsible for those games seem to be buddies with TFB (if the TFB website is any indicator) this amuses me.

And hey, I like the Mmrnmhrm theme.  (That one reminds me of the game music from Chromium BSU.)
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