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Topic: Injection 1 : M:bots (Read 5895 times)
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Lukipela
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Ok, I'm going to give this place an injection if nothing else, to stop people from complaining that it's dying rather than simply sleeping. This will be achieved through the creation of a few new topics, all more or less connected to the SC universe. I expect every member of this Forum to post in my new and shiny forums. If you do not, then I will hunt you down with my shiny Synth ship and bubble you. Some of these topics have been discussed before on this board, howver, some may not have been. anyone who feels that i'm simply resurrecting a dead topic is free to say so, but this is for new people as well as old, and we haven't all been here since the beginning you know : Now then, on to the topics:
The M:bots and their reproduction ability.
Why? Why couldn't the M:bots repair their Mother Ark? Are mechanical lifeforms really that much more complex? if man could create Androsynth, shouldn't the M:bots have been able to repair, or rebuild their Command Centre? Your thoughts on mechanic lifeforms and construction, software versus hardware and suchlike will be greatly appreciated.
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Sage
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Assuming SC3 as canon, it might stand to reason that the Mmrnmhrm might not have even been aware of the Dak's prescence. Then again I don't see why not, since both were supposed to have been created by the same Mother Ark. Being left without a purpose (and perhaps even incomplete programming) would leave this a possibility though.
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Oatworm
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I think Deep_Jiffa is on to something here... unlike organic beings like humans which have instincts that drive us to procreate, M:Bots don't. Therefore, any repair or reproductive capacities would have to be 'learned', which could take a long period of time. Also, they might have decided there was no need to reproduce according to their original programming, at least until they met other sentient lifeforms and began to see some benefits of reproduction. It also may depend on what the robots were made out of; there might have been some raw materials which were not readily available in their sphere of influence (a lack of M-Rocks?).
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Maybe not traumatic, but you'd then have the Mycon-Deep Children problem come up, where the differing programs would almost compete against each other. In effect, it'd perpetuate and guarantee bit decay.
Also, why would the M:Bots see the need? If they already accomplished whatever mission they were programmed to do, and if there was no threat to them or their existence (at the time) why would they bother, especially if they won't die? Remember that, with them being machines, they might not necessarily have that overriding drive to live, much less reproduce, and thus death might have meant nothing to them, especially if it didn't affect their 'mission', whatever that might have been.
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Death 999
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Note that biological reproduction is simplified immensely by the principle of self-similarity. Our components (cells) are largely the same from organ to organ, with a few alterations here and there. Thus we can build cells and then differentiate them later on.
A machine which has little in common with itself on the micro-level from region to region has potential to be MUCH more complicated.
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Death 999
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1) Mmrnmhrm may have a brain which is difficult to analyze. For example, if they use q-bits (information using quantum superposition) in processing, any attempt to debug the process will interfere with the result -- perhaps fatally!
In that case, even if they can reproduce a brain, they may not know a boot sequence, because that was stored in the Mother Ark.
2) It could very well be that though the M:bots are capable of seeing what their current configuration is, they are incapable of devising a method of getting raw materials into that configuration.
M:bots are machines, and they are sentient, but this does not mean that they can instantly solve all mechanical problems. It merely needs to be really difficult.
Also, note that reverse-engineering has the potential to be much much harder than engineering. Building an M:bot given an M:bot is probably much harder than the original task of building some device which fits the technical specifications for an M:bot. For one thing, you are never quite sure that you have it exactly right.
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Or we could just take the lazy, non-thinking solution and say the mother ark was beyond repair. 
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Deep Jiffa Owns j00!
