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Re: Saddam captured...semi old news
« Reply #30 on: January 29, 2004, 09:13:37 pm »

Didn't Germany send some troops? (reluctantly)
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« Reply #31 on: January 30, 2004, 03:44:34 am »

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It'll take quite a few years before the average level of oppression by Saddam would have added up to the quick burst of death and dismemberment associated with the war.  

I think 10+ years were quite enough.

You underestimate the power of a dictator.
How many did Hitler and Stalin kill? More then can be stored in a 24 bit integer.
How many has Saddam killed? We may never know.
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« Reply #32 on: January 30, 2004, 03:46:14 am »

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Didn't Germany send some troops? (reluctantly)

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Re: Saddam captured...semi old news
« Reply #33 on: January 30, 2004, 04:15:06 am »

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Why France, Germany and Russia were not part of the coalition is because they did not want their illegal trade agreements, with Iraq, to be known to the world.
I thought that it was because they wanted their debts repaid, and they were of the belief that a newly established government in Iraq would not assume the debts of Saddam's regime.

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It'll take quite a few years before the average level of oppression by Saddam would have added up to the quick burst of death and dismemberment associated with the war.

Not sure what the numbers are, but I'm certain someone out there is counting (wasn't there a casualty-o-meter on the web?).  Add the numbers from the gassing of the Kurds, politcal mass-graves, Iran/Iraq war(s), Desert Storm (invading kuwait made him the aggressor), divide by those number of years.  Then compare to the casualties of this war (include current peacekeeping casualties if you like) divided by the time it has taken so far.  Then, even if there is an imbalance in favor of Saddam causing fewer casualties per hour, consider that Saddam's killing would have continued into his death, and then one of his twisted sons would have probably taken over, so there _would_ have been quite a few years of Saddam's opression.
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« Reply #34 on: January 30, 2004, 06:41:02 am »

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I thought that it was because they wanted their debts repaid, and they were of the belief that a newly established government in Iraq would not assume the debts of Saddam's regime.

The debts caused by their illegal trade agreements
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Re: Saddam captured...semi old news
« Reply #35 on: January 31, 2004, 02:39:39 am »

Not disputing that, just pointing out that there was a reason associated with them, even if everyone already knew about them.
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« Reply #36 on: February 02, 2004, 08:04:14 pm »

Anyone - even if they have trouble connecting the dots can figure out that something fishy went on between France, Germany and a few other countrys.  
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Re: Saddam captured...semi old news
« Reply #37 on: July 28, 2006, 09:37:52 am »

here's my two cents - for what it's worth

The question that needs to be asked - preferably of the powers that be - is when are these 'people' going to grow up and behave like sensible adults? You killed us years ago, we're going to kill you now. Fine.
You killed us years ago, we killed you then, then you killed us, then we killed you - and so on unto extinction.
One word - pointless. Ideology, theology and/or treaty(s) have never been the real reasons. Try greed, vengeance and small-mindedness. Misanthropia is a very understandable concept, and always has been.

Here endeth the rant.
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Re: Saddam captured...semi old news
« Reply #38 on: August 04, 2006, 08:30:14 pm »

One word - pointless.

Bit like drudging a two year old thread to simply make the point "people are stupid"?

Although lookign back at this thread (and others) feels quite ironic at this stage. A lot of people were way to hopeful when the invasion began, expecting the rebuilding to be quick and easy, rather than the quagmire it has become.
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