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Re: The Israeli situation
« Reply #90 on: March 21, 2004, 10:53:44 pm »

I thought that the shofixti voted on using the bomb in their own system. If that is true, than more than half must be ready to use a glory device. (And I don't think more than half of the population is in their military)
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« Reply #91 on: March 21, 2004, 10:58:48 pm »

Reference to voting please? I always considered the Shofixti quite feudal, meaning they wouldn't be democratic. any evidence for or against that?
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« Reply #92 on: March 21, 2004, 11:05:04 pm »

I believe they were feudel before being introduced to technology, so your assumtion seems quite good. Do you think they had one ruler for the entire race, or were they divided.
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« Reply #93 on: March 21, 2004, 11:07:49 pm »

I am pretty sure - I will have to find it later, it is the yehat says about how the Shofixti cam to the decision.
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« Reply #94 on: March 21, 2004, 11:12:40 pm »

What I think, and this is purely speculation of course, is that they had some sort of feudal system, an empire of sorts with one strong leader, surrounded by lots of cermony. Possibly the political nd spiritual leader was the same, like in Japan.
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Re: The Israeli situation
« Reply #95 on: March 22, 2004, 09:22:50 pm »

Don't think that those nuclear gunboats wouldn't have what it takes to hit the big red button.

Consider the actions off Samar during the Battle of Leyte Gulf.
3 American destroyers charged 4 battleships, 8 cruisers, and around a dozen destroyers. I posit that this basically amounted to a suicide attack (one of the destroyers did make it out, with heavy damage).

And of course later in the day, the first Kamikazes were sent.

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« Reply #96 on: March 22, 2004, 09:34:02 pm »

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What I think, and this is purely speculation of course, is that they had some sort of feudal system, an empire of sorts with one strong leader, surrounded by lots of cermony. Possibly the political nd spiritual leader was the same, like in Japan.


Considering Japan and the and my extended knowledge of their culture (Hollywood style, at least  Wink) I'd say the Shofixiti have many similarities. Also, since the Shofixti were the Yehat's 'children', they probably were influenced by their culture, including the monarchist features.
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« Reply #97 on: March 23, 2004, 08:26:29 am »

OK the Shofixi were obviously Japanese then why were the Yehat Scottish?  Seems a little odd since the Yehat uplifted the Shofixi and the Scotts are known for being blood-thristy.
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« Reply #98 on: March 23, 2004, 10:57:59 pm »

Hey, Star Control II wasn't made after the human culture and history, just a few ideas taken from here and there.
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« Reply #99 on: April 26, 2004, 02:25:47 pm »

Bringing up an old thread cuz I'm bored, Scotts are not noyl known for being bloodthristy. The Scots of old had a very interesting Clan system based upon honour, which the Yehat have been modeled after amiably.

Whereas I think the Shofixti could aptly be looked at as a version of the Tsurani in Riftwar (by whatshisname), albeit without The Great Game. Or possibly with it, who knows.
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« Reply #100 on: April 27, 2004, 12:38:14 am »

The Riftwar saga is by Raymond E. Feist and is a great read. Cool
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« Reply #101 on: May 13, 2004, 10:24:32 pm »

Since some parralels between the Mideast and Starcon have been drawn, I will draw a different angle...........

Mycon.

Unfortunatly, the way many of these Arabs...and for that matter the more fundamentalist Jews....are brought up....they are taught that...
a)things must always be done the way of their parents' parents' parents' parents' .......
b)The enemy is in the way, negotiating is wrong
c)That far beyond culture, what must be maintained are the "family honor" (TM) and "purity" (TM) and "Glory" (TM)....so they'll tell their children that their people are always right, even if they bend the rules that their culture supposedly teaches, they'll tell their children to only marry others of their own type, and that the highest honor is to die in battle...to stop fighting would be an insult to...well...the wishes of their parents' parents' parents' parents'......
Basically, they have a "Juffo-Wup" they want maintained at all costs. And what do the fanatics do to poor illiterate villagers? They brainwash them, or basically, "infuse" the "Juffo-Wup" into them. Of course, the signal-to-noise ratio has gotten extremly low. To a point where they don't care about what they do, nor do they know why things are that way.....but the fundamentalists want to preserve the Juffo-Wup....which they do by warping the scriptures (Koran in case of Islamic fundamentalists, Talmud in case of the extremist Jews)

So even if some resort to the level of Shofixti, in essense they are thinking like Mycon. Think about it.

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Re: The Israeli situation
« Reply #102 on: May 14, 2004, 12:11:39 am »

If only both sides were as militarily ineffective as the Mycon.
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« Reply #103 on: May 15, 2004, 10:47:30 am »

Watch it only if you must.

http://www.ethernet.org/~chris/video/iraq2vediom2.wmv ( go to 4 minute if you want to skip).

Yea I know it isn't something about the Israelis but my point is that look what their religion do to people. Only people without heart can do it. And trust me they are not much diffrent than the them. Try talking with those guys.
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Re: The Israeli situation
« Reply #104 on: May 15, 2004, 09:07:24 pm »

A terrorist in SC terms.......
They have the thinking and reasoning of Mycon,
The suicidal tendencies of Shofixti,
They wear masks like Utwig,
Bluster and threaten like Thraddash,
And engage in sadistic activities similar to Ilwrath,
While claiming to have the nobility of the Owa!
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