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Who wins in the end?
« on: January 28, 2004, 10:28:14 pm »

Assuming you don't do anything, who wins in the end? The Kohr-Ah or the Probes?
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Re: Who wins in the end?
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2004, 12:52:15 am »

The probes!

they dont need a support structure.
they grow at a rate not even the shofixi can match.
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Re: Who wins in the end?
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2004, 01:43:06 am »

I'd say the Korh-Ah. They could continue to grow, expand and destroy from land colonies, even if their ships were all wiped out. They have an advantage of numbers, by far.
Plus they have the Ur-Quan battle platform, assuming you don't blow it up.

Actually, what about the Traders? I think they leave this area of space around the same time the black Ur-Quan start their cleasing. I wonder where they go? They'd probably win, the corperations always do.
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Re: Who wins in the end?
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2004, 03:40:16 am »

I would say the Ur-quan (combined) They have dealt with many problems in the past and think that the probes will not be a problem for them.
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Re: Who wins in the end?
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2004, 04:31:32 am »

line up computer vs computer kohr-ah and probes;  if there is a huge discrepency, then one side might win.
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Re: Who wins in the end?
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2004, 04:39:12 am »

In the end, entropy always wins.
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Re: Who wins in the end?
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2004, 04:48:07 am »

Maybe not in Quasispace.
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Re: Who wins in the end?
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2004, 05:37:27 am »

It is a ratio of three probes per ur-quan ship (mixed). But remember, the Ur-quan ships take a while to make and require raw RU's. The probes self replicate so there is a lot more of them than Ur-Quan ships. Though as smart as the Ur-quan are they would probaly make a ship that takes out probes easily.
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Re: Who wins in the end?
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2004, 03:28:09 pm »

Some points for this discussion:

1. The Kohr-Ah are probabably very throrough in exterminating senient life, and I doubt they'd overlook the gas giant at Beta Corvi. Though they might, because the Kohr-Ah, bypassed the Druuge, who kept their hyperwave communcations silent, and gave (or sold? can't recall.) that Hyperwave Caster to the Burvix. However, the Kohr-Ah aren't fooled that easy, because they do go back and correct their mistake at the end of UQM as time expires. Additionally, if other races could extrapolate their probe data to give you hints in UQM about where to find the Slylandro, the Kohr-Ah could probably figure it out from the clues. So it's likely they'd find the Slylandro, and a means of extorting from them the codes they'd need to win that war. Maybe by chopping off their glowy bits.

2. If the Mael-Num are the Melnorme, then it's likely the Ur-Quan have seen these probes and the technology before, and may know the codes to shut the probes down.
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Re: Who wins in the end?
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2004, 05:32:38 pm »

Two thing:
1. Like he said, if they are the Mael-Num, the Ur-Quan will know how to shut them down.
2. Saying they WON'T know how, they are smart enough to understand they can't beat them by their own ships. They need a powerful weapon to destroy them without "giving" them resources to repliacte: the Sa-Matra.

edit: we already had a thread on this. Can someone find it?
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Re: Who wins in the end?
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2004, 07:47:18 pm »

Yeah, the Sa-Matra is all they need.  I doubt that the Khor-Ah would extort any information from the Slylandro; they'd just tell them to prepare for death and then kill them.  Also, it's been 20,000 years since the Ur-Quan (either speices) have seen the Mael-Num.  If the Melnorme are the Mael-Num, I really doubt that the Ur-Quan would have seen these probes, or even thought of them as a threat (they usually aren't programmed the way the slylandro set them up).
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Re: Who wins in the end?
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2004, 09:04:29 pm »

How would you be sure you killed all the Slyrandro? I mean part of their bodies are invisible. Would you poison the planet or something?
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Re: Who wins in the end?
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2004, 09:14:03 pm »

The probe is a lot like the fury, it can do a lot of damage to the sa-matra. Then again, they dont have a big juicy utwig bomb.
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Re: Who wins in the end?
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2004, 09:17:06 pm »

I don't think that a probe can do barely any damage to the Sa-matra. I think that it can take out its stationary defences yes, but remember. The Sa-Matra was not using its weapons during the time that you destroyed it.
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Re: Who wins in the end?
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2004, 09:22:28 pm »

ya. it was only using the green balls and fire balls.
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