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Re: 'They' cannot see you now.
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2004, 07:52:57 pm »

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What I suggest is that the cuts are the result of them "pulling" him (they moved toward him).


So they were *pulling* him slice by slice?  Ouchie; like a _really_ slow transporter from Star Trek.
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« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2004, 08:04:55 pm »

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So they were *pulling* him slice by slice?  Ouchie; like a _really_ slow transporter from Star Trek.

Heh. Not a fun thought.

The thing is, Orz can be in many places at once because it has many "fingers". So what is to say that "they" would pull a person hand-first or head-first? It could as easily be random parts.

They are also just cuts, not something that looks diseased. And the crew doesn't seem to worry at all that they will be infected by any parasite or disease. No one on the ship dies as a result. If it were some kind of flesh-eating parasite, surely others would become infected?
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« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2004, 08:08:18 pm »

Maybe only if they *showed* themselves? Anyway - If it their bodies were taken piece by piece then anything brought into another demension would be dead, correct?
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« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2004, 08:15:16 pm »

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Maybe only if they *showed* themselves? Anyway - If it their bodies were taken piece by piece then anything brought into another demension would be dead, correct?


But if the parasites were physically there, it seems they would have seen them in his body. And no, Orz can be in two dimensions at once - parts in one, parts in the other. A human/androsynth could probably too. In this case it would be a horrific experience. He would be changing "phases", bit by bit.
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« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2004, 10:50:56 pm »

Orz might be able to put people back together alive.  Since the overall effect is just *sliding* from one *level* to another, Orz might not understand why we would have an aversion to this (especially if the fish creatures are the corporeal *fingers* of Orz; it travels *layers* piece by piece naturally).
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« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2004, 01:43:08 am »

Or perhaps the Orz have a way of *sliding* that is natural to their, ehm, unique phisiology, but wreaks havoc on other races.

Mosquito Mange is described in a book called Roadside Picnic, written by Arkady and Boris Strugatsky. Here's the excerpt.
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Right in front, two hundred yards away, Redrick saw the helicopter. It had fallen, apparently, into the middle of a mosquito mange spot, and its fuselage had been squashed into a metal pancake. Its tail had remained intact, only slightly bent, and it stuck out over the glade like a black hook. The stabilizer was also whole, and it squeaked distinctly, turning in the light breeze. The mange must have
been very powerful, for there hadn't even been a real fire, and the Royal Air Force insignia was very clear on the flattened metal.


Think of it as a really, really, really strong temporary gravity well. It apparently pulled a helicopter to the ground and crushed so quickly that a fire didn't even have a chance to start.
That's what I call pressure.
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« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2004, 11:04:36 am »

Spoiler for Sc3-

What the Precursor said about the Orz(not much btw but still)

-What are the Orz up to?-

I do not know. They are new to this quadrant. Our remote sensing apparatus reveals that they are inter-dimensional projection of a greater creature. But I cannot see what this creature is.
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« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2004, 06:41:27 pm »

But the question is, are we considering SC3 apart of this thread?
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« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2004, 06:41:41 pm »

NECRO-99:

Interesting and odd. I wonder if they included that for fun, or if it actually had any connection with what was going on in the game. I don't see how it fits into the events.

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Yes... but that is just from SC3, so it isn't much use. Wink In any case, the quote you have there doesn't say anything new.

I remember when SC3 came out. I didn't know it wasn't by TFB, and I bought a copy as soon as I could get my hands on it. Unfortunately, I wasn't impressed with it.
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« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2004, 01:00:58 am »

Lightman, perhaps the Mosquito Mange occured where the Orz were ripping holes in the dimentions? I'd wager that the gravity there would get so strong it would punch through "reality" into another. Some poor 'synth was standing in a spot where it happened, got turned into a flapjack, and then sucked through the rift that was created shortly thereafter (keeping canon with the 'no corpses' buisness).
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« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2004, 03:01:51 am »

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I like everything else in your post, but "mosquito mange" is not similar to ordinary mange in any way.  It's a reference to electomagnetic/gravimetric  forces that seem to defy physical law.  Seemingly supernatural.  Why it's called mosquito mange?  I have no clue.


It's from a Russian novelette called 'Roadside Picnic', where a weird anomaly creates all sorts of bizzare physical phenomena around a small mining town and the surrounding meadow/swamp. In the summer, you'd get all sorts of flies, mosquitos and gnats buzzing around... but wherever the gravitocentromes were, there'd be a giant 'bald spot' where the bugs were getting squished into the ground at 60,000G's
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« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2004, 03:53:28 pm »

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Lightman, perhaps the Mosquito Mange occured where the Orz were ripping holes in the dimentions? I'd wager that the gravity there would get so strong it would punch through "reality" into another. Some poor 'synth was standing in a spot where it happened, got turned into a flapjack, and then sucked through the rift that was created shortly thereafter (keeping canon with the 'no corpses' buisness).

Yeah. I had thought that perhaps the "pulling" from the Orz created some phenomenon like that. It could also be as you mentioned, that every time it "pushed" through, something like that happened. It doesn't have to be exactly the same as mosquito mange, but perhaps something similar. It would be the closest the Androsynth could come to explaining it (like the ghosts).

I was also wondering if that could explain the cuts, but I don't really see a connection... unless intense gravity could cause physical damage (cuts) that wouldn't show up immediately. But it seems to me that, in the game, the cause of the cuts is ongoing.

HentaiZonga:
Thanks for the info. NECRO-99 did explain that in his post from Feb. 03.
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« Reply #27 on: February 11, 2004, 03:36:36 am »

Zonga, you gotta read previous posts, man. Tongue
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« Reply #28 on: February 11, 2004, 07:49:57 pm »

Well, I think Zonga's post was fine in that it clarified the actual source of the name, which was a welcome addition. I mean, the earlier mention described its effect on a helicopter or plane or something, but this did not clear up where the name came from, or some of its other properties.

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« Reply #29 on: February 11, 2004, 09:24:56 pm »

I agree. In Necro's defense, though, I don't think he meant it to be so critical - that is, a protest. Necro probably just meant that Zonga didn't need to be redundant at all, if he had read the earlier post.
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