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Re: Aliens; how do they move?
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2004, 07:21:44 pm »

Which means that the Yehat are Pkunk are definitly not interbreedable. The Yehat, as mentioned in the SC1 manual, live on a superdense planet.

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Re: Aliens; how do they move?
« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2004, 01:04:02 am »

Well, it was a guess. Maybe their super-skeletal strength from evolving on a superdense planet enables such aberrations, and after a short period back on homeworld their heads shrink back down to a manageable size.
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Re: Aliens; how do they move?
« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2004, 04:08:06 am »

the chenjesu use the suns or what ever energy they have and and are able to glide you know like bumper cars
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Re: Aliens; how do they move?
« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2004, 10:16:57 am »

An interesting fan written fiction proposed that the chenjesu moved by molecularly rearranging themselves -- an incredibly slow process.  

And that also, since then, they developed a wheeled cart that could be manipulated electrically.

I thought it fit their particular style -- thoughtful, philisophical, slow.
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Re: Aliens; how do they move?
« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2004, 09:59:32 pm »

These have all been very wonderful theories and an utmost joy to read, I have to say that with the Chenjesu I too favour the idea of slow molecular readjustment, for no other reason than the idea of it fascinates me more than anything else; and if one were to theorize, it would also explain why they'd wish to bond with the Mmrnmhrm and moreover, how.  After all, it's true that the Mmrnmhrm used technology that was so aptly described by the avatar of Sqrlian-ness, Gordy, as Robotech technology.  Given the morphic nature of the Mmrnmhrm and the supposedly morphic nature of the Chenjesu, this might allow them to bond on some molecular level and this possibility might've seemed like a really good idea at the time to both, for the reasons stated within the game, of course!  It seems likely anyway that such an adaptive and modular molecular structure would support the idea of 'The Process'.

As for the Pkunk, I have little to say!  I certainly don't stand behind the idea of them being 'airheads', not at all.  I won't hear of that.  Instead I'd rather agree with he who claimed the Pkunk to have a denser bone structure, after all, if it works for Flamingoes then it might also work for our good friendly friends, the Pkunk.  It's just a theory in passing anyway, they all are and I enjoy them.  I've also enjoyed reading all this.  Verily, keep them coming!  This is a fascinating topic.

I did have an idea on the Umgah too; but that was ranging far too into the far-fetched and it might get me into trouble, so I'm not sure whether I should share this one.  I think I will but... you have been warned.  And to be forewarned is to have four-arms, or something along those lines.  I theorize that the Umgah whilst not being wholly parasitic, might be able to 'bond' with their ship on some level, so instead of moving they might be able to 'sink into' the biommass of their ship, to join with it and eventually, be spat out somewhere else.  That the 'body' of their ships might work like any other body and its reactions to the organisms contained within.  I know little of the Umgah so their entire planet might be like this as far as I know.

It might be possible that they were able to merge with parts of their planet and use it to travel around, utilizing vines and whatnot in a sort of symbiotic way.  If they were parasites then it's likely they'd still have and be using the creatures they bonded with, I'm not sure?  They could've 'absorbed' these creatures into their biomass I admit, and used them that way but they don't seem to have any aspects of other races.  So they might feed on the animals of their planet by absorbing them and they might use these absorption techniques to move through certain kinds of matter such as the biomass of their ship.  Not like parasites then but... it's really quite hard to explain.

More like the way a water-based life-form might become one with a body of water easily.  A water-elemental might become a lake.  That sort of thing.  In essence, I believe I'm claiming that the Umgah are flesh elementals.  I know, it's just icky.  I wouldn't touch the topic more than that with a long barge pole, and I might desire to clean said pole afterwards.
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Re: Aliens; how do they move?
« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2004, 11:08:08 pm »

... or discard it entirely.

As for the Umgah, I take note of several factors:

1) they take a very whimsical view towards combat
2) they find massive destruction funny
3) they are the best neurosurgeons around
4) their ship is called the drone
5) instead of one Dnyarri being able to take control of one planet of Ur-Quan (who were the most psychically susceptible of the Milieu races), the Dnyarri took over the ENTIRE UMGAH SPECIES

I think the Umgah are psychically linked on a deep level to each other, so closely tied that individuality is greatly mitigated. So going into combat against a precursor vessel and facing sure death is fine, because it'll jump ship once it has been discorporated, and enjoy the tale with a laugh later on.
On the other hand, once the Dnyarri asserted control over the umgah on the homeworld, which has by far the biggest psychic network around (even bigger than 1-900-Pkunkra), the weight of that influence affected the outlying ships.

SO... the umgah on board a ship might simply absorb into the walls, discorporating... and then grab spare parts from a different part of the ship and reincorporate over there. For short range movement, of course, those stubby legs would be adequate.

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Re: Aliens; how do they move?
« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2004, 12:05:01 am »

Sounds exactly the same as what I'd described, I note.  My theory being minus the psychic elements, of course.  That said, I support your theory.  It sounds good and plausible to me.  I think the Umgah are just biomasses which can bond with things, I think that's all each Umgah body is.  They're like an ameoba but on a much larger scale, and they actually have a complex molecular structure as opposed to none.

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Of course, I bear no malice towards the peculiar Umgah so I wouldn't want to discard said stick; besides, poking them with a stick might prove enlightening, they might really be holographic entities disguising themselves as a biomass to throw us off and they got hacked!  Of course, I really should stop thinking about machines.

And no, nobody should take that seriously, I was kidding, wholly.  Though this does give an amusing cause to wonder, if the Umgah shared their home planet with any other races, said races might've spent days poking the Umgah with sticks and wondering what they were and in an eye-for-an-eye way, the Umgah might've decided to do some exploratorive research on them instead and found how fascinating it was.

"Oh, so THAT'S why they were poking us with sticks.  There's interesting stuff in there!  Probably in us too..."

Nonetheless, I shall wander off and take my crazy with me, but I thought it was an amusing thought in passing.
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Re: Aliens; how do they move?
« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2004, 04:40:27 am »

I think the Umgah move sort of like meatwad does in Aqua Teen Hunger Force.  Just sort of roll around like meatballs.
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Re: Aliens; how do they move?
« Reply #23 on: March 08, 2004, 10:15:24 am »

Since their entire homeworld is made of crystals, maybe the Chenjesu transfer themselves through the crystal latices of their world.
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Re: Aliens; how do they move?
« Reply #24 on: March 09, 2004, 01:47:29 am »

What I think this discussion is verging on, but hasnt actually said yet, is that the umgah are a collective. Each umgah can merge with each other, and maybe the squishy bottom of their ships. They are each different, and have enough organs grafted to them to allow them to do their jobs. They are sortoff like the borg in startrek, except organic (squishy-er)
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Re: Aliens; how do they move?
« Reply #25 on: March 09, 2004, 02:03:11 am »

Don't the umagh just sort of roll around and laugh? har har har  Tongue
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Re: Aliens; how do they move?
« Reply #26 on: March 09, 2004, 02:05:44 am »

They seem very... interconnectable. It seems if two umgah were pressed toghether they would make a single umgah.
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Re: Aliens; how do they move?
« Reply #27 on: March 09, 2004, 05:23:42 am »

This theory seems ok. It explains why the frog took over the entire Umgah and not just a single planet. Also, I think the "drone" ship is made from...Umgah.
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Re: Aliens; how do they move?
« Reply #28 on: March 09, 2004, 05:28:32 am »

The drone doesnt look organic to me. I think they built it.
The podship looks organic. I think the blade is under dispute.
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Re: Aliens; how do they move?
« Reply #29 on: March 09, 2004, 05:31:31 am »

You know what? You are right. The drone can't be organic. The umgah are "real" life form. They were created from nature. The Mycon aren't. There isn't an organic creature that can survive in space. The podship surely can, because it was created for it by another creature.
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