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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #60 on: March 15, 2004, 02:33:47 pm »

First of all I am a Christian. Second, I am Against Same sex marriages. I believe these people who are homosexual need help not marriage. Marriage was given to man, by God, as the way a man and a woman are too become one in Gods eyes. When you trample on that, like homosexuals do, you will shame yourself.

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“Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.”

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“If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.”



The Law given to Moses by God is very clear about punishments for homosexuality. I am sure glad Jesus Christ died on the cross to forgive us of our sins.

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“Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral.”


The Bible rarely goes to specifics on homosexuality but refers to it in the more general term “sexual immorality” It is understandable why since such behavior probably did not even have a name, back then.

Homo sexuality is wrong and is a sin.
It’s on the same level as perverted old men having sex with little boys and girls.
I don't hate them, I just know they have picked an, immoral, self destructive life style and I can forgive them of that. But they need help to change their ways, not a way to indulge themselves in their lifestyles and that’s what gay marriage is.
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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #61 on: March 15, 2004, 07:16:06 pm »

Right.....But that's a christian view point on religious marriage.
Hey, if the church wants to refuse to marry queers, then so be it.

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Since US and Canadian law forbid mixing religion and state,
this makes it a moot point whether the church marries gays.
The debate is (on a national scale) whether homosexuals should
legally be allowed to marry, not religiously.
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« Reply #62 on: March 15, 2004, 09:18:07 pm »

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The Bible rarely goes to specifics on homosexuality but refers to it in the more general term “sexual immorality”


Way to beg the question. I grant that the old testament was out-and-out against homosexuality. However, this prohibition is situated among other rules that I'm sure you break quite frequently without even thinking that you have sinned, and in fact committed an abomination of the eyes of the lord.

SO, working within the new testament, and not begging the question, what have you?

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Homo sexuality is wrong and is a sin.
It’s on the same level as perverted old men having sex with little boys and girls.


Grown men are capable of giving consent. From a legal standpoint, this makes it VERY different.

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they need help to change their ways, not a way to indulge themselves in their lifestyles and that’s what gay marriage is.


Funny, they were happily going about being homosexual without the help of the state giving them marriage licenses. It's not a way to indulge themselves, since they can equally well commit the sin without the marriage.
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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #63 on: March 16, 2004, 02:55:40 am »

I'd say it's fair to let them get married. It's everyones private thing, and there's no harm. Why wouldn't they be allowed to do so?
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Re: Same Sex Marriage
« Reply #64 on: March 16, 2004, 02:56:30 am »

That is what this entire thread has been about.  Wink
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« Reply #65 on: March 16, 2004, 03:11:09 am »

making that an extreamally relavent post. (har har)
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« Reply #66 on: March 16, 2004, 03:20:22 am »

Sorry  Sad I should have read it all through. But what? No post against SSM?
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« Reply #67 on: March 16, 2004, 04:02:10 am »

I am not that well informed about this subject - What is SSM?
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« Reply #68 on: March 16, 2004, 04:50:32 am »

I'm pretty sure he made up that contraction, and I'm pretty sure he meant same sex marriage
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« Reply #69 on: March 16, 2004, 05:31:49 am »

Duh....   Angry Angry - I showed have put that together! That is the sad state of my tired brain right now.....  Cry
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« Reply #70 on: March 17, 2004, 01:05:43 am »

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Way to beg the question. I grant that the old testament was out-and-out against homosexuality. However, this prohibition is situated among other rules that I'm sure you break quite frequently without even thinking that you have sinned, and in fact committed an abomination of the eyes of the lord.

SO, working within the new testament, and not begging the question, what have you?

Romans 1:26-27 seems pretty clear:
"For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet."

Also 1 Cor. 6:9, Col. 3:5, 1 Tim. 1:10, 2 Tim. 3:3 and Jude 1:7.
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« Reply #71 on: March 17, 2004, 03:05:57 am »

But that has no legal relavence.
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« Reply #72 on: March 17, 2004, 03:10:28 am »

It has relevance to what D_999 was talking about though....
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« Reply #73 on: March 17, 2004, 11:36:28 am »

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But that has no legal relavence.

Right.  I was answering Death_999's question.  I still stand by what I said earlier: "I think that this is a moral issue, and I don't really know that the government should be able to make moral decisions for people."
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« Reply #74 on: March 18, 2004, 05:15:42 am »

U mean like smoking and drinking look around it's been done already these are moral issues that have been outlawed, In recent news Okay not recent but within the last 3 years Mike Bloomburg (don't like him so I don't care about spelling) passed a law making it illegal to smoke indoors( affects inside bars as well) and to drink outdoors. Those of u who don't know who Mike Bloomburg he's the Mayor of New York City. So lets drop "it's a moral issue" as a defense.

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P.S. Death999 I'm curious on where u stand on this, u seem to make points for both sides, are u for, against, or just don't give a damn?
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