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Re: The best ships
« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2004, 01:34:25 am »

When you're playing the full game what ship is the best to take on the Ilwrath, I hate those guys.
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Re: The best ships
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2004, 01:35:44 am »

The orz can kill the chmmr as long as u dont fly away, or toward it. You need to keep turning away, cus the chmmr takes a while to change direction. You probably all knew that.

The thraddash can kill a chmmr as long as u dont mess up.

The ariloo can always kill a chmmr if u give it enough time and your playing a human player. Just wait for the suicide.

The most efficient way to kill the chmmr is still the utwig.
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« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2004, 05:48:56 am »

I played this against someone on my computer a few days ago and learned a little more about melee. I like Orz, they can kill everything. Here's what the Orz can't completely stomp into oblivion:

Kohr-Ah: Against the computer you're typically going to defeat one, then retreat or die in the next fight. If it's player controlled, they have a definite advantage.

Shofixti: Ugh. Did you know there are people out there that like to play equal ship value games against you with just these? One Orz = four Shofixti, five if you're generous. You can theoretically beat them with your speed and range, but it takes an eternity to land a hit and one false slip is all it takes for them to take you out. The sad thing is, Orz are one of the better choices for this scenario. The only good way I've found to put the little rascals down is with a Supox.

Androsynth: OMGWTFBBQ!

I don't mention the Arilou because human controlled Skiffs are quite managable. Slylandro could be a little dangerous if you meet someone who's actually good with it.
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« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2004, 06:19:39 am »

If you can find it, there's a huge thread where a bunch of us talk about matchups of every ship against every other ship in the game...

For the Ilwrath you want the Utwig, Zot-Foq-Pik, Supox, Druuge (if you get a ship in the game), or Traddash.

For the player that likes the Traddash - I can tell you don't play on Awesome mode...turn it to Awesome and then see how well you do...or try against human players.
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Re: The best ships
« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2004, 06:34:58 am »

One of the best ships to tackle the Ilwrath is the Shyreen Penater. You can
suck out the crew (which also shows where the cloacker is hiding) then turn and shoot him. Fly back and pick up the crew before the next Ilwrath shows up.

As for the Thraddish. I can beat almost any computer ship (yes on awesome) with a Thraddish. Though I do admit that human players tend to do much better against the Torch.
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Re: The best ships
« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2004, 06:40:35 am »

Here is a interesting fact about the CPU. When you are playing against a Aswsome chmmr, the level of engines you put away from the chmmr is how much they are going to use their tractor beam. In you don't fire your engines, they won't use the tractor.  
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« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2004, 06:46:05 am »

Here's the before mentioned link...it's still quite interesting to read through, and I wrote some of it  Grin

http://uqm.stack.nl/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Gendiscuss;action=display;num=1062686746
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« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2004, 12:20:37 pm »

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When you're playing the full game what ship is the best to take on the Ilwrath, I hate those guys.

In the full game, the best ship for fighting the Ilwrath is the Zoq-Fot-Pik Stinger.  It is faster and more maneuverable than its opponent, and it's main weapon is oddly suited to shooting at cloaked ships, e.g., point in the general direction of the enemy, get within a reasonable distance and open fire.  The fairly quick recharge rate means you can dish out the pain rather quickly, as opposed to the Orz Nemesis who can only fire three times before needing to recharge.

To test this out, I started Super-Melee against an "Awesome AI" team of 14 Ilwrath ships, and on my team I had a single Stinger.  The Stinger won, and would have had full crew were it not for an unfortunate incident with the planet's surface.  Wink
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Re: The best ships
« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2004, 06:18:29 pm »

How long did it take?
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Re: The best ships
« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2004, 01:51:52 am »

Each Ilwrath ship takes like 1 minute. It is pretty easy to beat those with the Stinger.
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Re: The best ships
« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2004, 02:33:52 am »

Can you say, "Lets all go mine ilwrath space!"
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Re: The best ships
« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2004, 02:37:01 am »

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That's why timewarp adds an addtional level to difficulty to the game when u use a cloaked avenger in SC2 you can more or less guess where it is. I call it target pratice. How's this drugge vs. an avenger how's your aim helps if outnumber them at least 3 to 1.

I thnk teminator meant to post this here, so lets treat it like he did.
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Re: The best ships
« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2004, 02:38:29 am »

The timewarp feature of making the ilwrath cloaking more effective makes the ilwrath quite a bit more challenging. I always get nervous when I fight the ilwath in timewarp. I know it going to suddenly zoom in on the ilwrath burning my ship.
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Re: The best ships
« Reply #28 on: March 15, 2004, 02:55:12 am »

Without edit button: 3 post. With edit button: 1 wonderful post! And what feature are you talking about?
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Re: The best ships
« Reply #29 on: March 15, 2004, 04:36:32 am »

And here is a screenshot for proof:

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