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The best ships
« on: March 11, 2004, 08:19:27 am »

What are your thoughts on what ships are the best to fight which ships.  All I know is I can kick some Ur-Quan butt with the Spathi Eluder.
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« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2004, 05:59:55 pm »

I like the Thraddash against just about anything. It owns the Ur-Quan, Kohr-Ar, Chmmr, Androsynth, Pkunk, and most other ships.

It's weak against the Druuge, Earthling, and Chenjesu, but hey, nothing's perfect.
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Re: The best ships
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2004, 06:23:51 pm »

Heh... Try doing Thraddash tricks against a decent human player. They won't work.

Of the heavy ships I like the Kohr-Ah the best. It takes some skill, has several kinds of viable strategy: insane damage pump, pillbox, sniper, mine-layer. Its weapons form very solid defenses that block anything but Fearballs and confusion rays.

Of the lighter ships, I like the Supox. They can put out a large amount of damage in multiple bursts from medium range, and can dodge easily. They also have a small target profile if rotated correctly.

As far as Ur-Quan vs. Spathi is concerned, yeah, the Spathi have a major native upper hand. Solution? First, you can try going very quickly via a grav whip or two. Done properly, the Spathi actually can't keep up. This will let you 'scan' across it as a target, substituting timing as a continuous aiming variable for rotation as a discrete one. This helps a lot.

This works for both Kohr-Ah and Kzer-Za, but the Kzer-Za can use it better due to a faster moving main.
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Re: The best ships
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2004, 09:20:02 pm »

Don't forget the chmmr killer - Druuge = Dead chmmr.

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Re: The best ships
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2004, 09:42:05 pm »

Favorite heavy: The Chenjesu. If it had the Chmmr's speed and energy recharge rate it would be unstoppable. As it is, it's nearly unstoppable.

Favorite light: Arilou. Not sure if that's really true or not, but it's as good a pick as any.
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Re: The best ships
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2004, 09:52:18 pm »

I would have to say the Spati Eluder and The Utwig Jugger the Spathi owns all if you can get used to screen wraps and onlys faster ships like the slyandro probes, the Jugger needs no explanation.
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« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2004, 10:12:14 pm »

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Favorite heavy: The Chenjesu. If it had the Chmmr's speed and energy recharge rate it would be unstoppable. As it is, it's nearly unstoppable.

Favorite light: Arilou. Not sure if that's really true or not, but it's as good a pick as any.


I like that arilou as well. The CPU is REALLY good with it though. I think it calculates whether the weapon you launched would he it and than a spit second before the weapon hits it teleports.

Chenjesu - Well, depends for me. The only bad thing about it is its slow turning rate. If you play a Adrosnyth right, the Chenjesu is as good as dead.
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« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2004, 12:21:06 am »

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Chenjesu - Well, depends for me. The only bad thing about it is its slow turning rate. If you play a Adrosnyth right, the Chenjesu is as good as dead.

Yeah, once the Synth gets to the Broodhome, it's all over. So the goal is to not let it get close to the Broodhome. Most pilots I've played against (including the computer) let the Broodhome travel pretty linearly without too many twists and turns. That makes for good aiming and hitting.

One caveat I suppose I should mention about the Broodhome is that if a ship starts off right next to the Broodhome, the Broodhome can be in pretty bad shape. Especially against a ship like the Jugger. If I start off far enough away that the DOGIs get to him before he gets to me, then I can bare down on him with my crystals, but if he's next to me immediately then he can tear me apart and absorb most of the damage I send his way.
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« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2004, 02:44:36 am »

Heavy ship: Koar-Ah. This ship rocks! You can camp, put mines, use gravity whip and FRIED(if you do it very well, you can pass right near the ship and use it so 8 fireballs will hit(!)
snipe, and ofcourse you can do defensive wall with the shreds. Almost perfect....

Medium ships: Terminator  Grin The ship that can beat the crap out of you, CPU or human! No need to add anything else....

Light ship: Fury. Despite to the fact that it is very hard to control it, I managed to get a control almost as the cpu but just smarter... The only one ship that I almost can't beat with it... The Jugger(cpu only ofcourse... unless you have super skills in shields like the cpu does).
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Re: The best ships
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2004, 06:16:40 am »

I'm a big fan of the Chmmr. It can take just about any small ship and most of the big ones, if used carefully. While a number of ships work well in human vs computer combat, this ship is also good at human vs human. The only ship I can think of that it has trouble matching is the Utwig.
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« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2004, 06:20:56 am »

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I'm a big fan of the Chmmr. It can take just about any small ship and most of the big ones, if used carefully. While a number of ships work well in human vs computer combat, this ship is also good at human vs human. The only ship I can think of that it has trouble matching is the Utwig.


Let's  not forget the Koar-Ah they beat the crap out of  the Chmmr Fried will kill all zapsats it makes contact with
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Re: The best ships
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2004, 06:56:48 am »

Need I repeat? I guess so, since the Druuge was not on that list.

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« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2004, 07:09:26 am »

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Let's  not forget the Koar-Ah they beat the crap out of  the Chmmr Fried will kill all zapsats it makes contact with


The Chmmr can still kill the Koar-Ah in 4 sec, but yes he will lose the Zaplites/some of them because of the FRIED.
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« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2004, 04:45:11 pm »

^ Not to mention that skillful use of the tractor beam can allow you to avoid the FRIED without losing any Zapsats.
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Re: The best ships
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2004, 11:41:30 pm »

I agree that the Druuge is a great ship for killing Chmmr, if you warp in at long distance. But, really, at medium or short range, the Druuge is toast.
Also, I've found that while a Druuge ship is great for killing one Chmmr (human vs computer), in human vs human combat, it usually isn't a good choice.

I've also found that one Druuge is great against one Chmmr. But I can
beat five Druuge ships (getting the bomb) with one Chmmr. Trying the same in reverse would probably cause the Druuge to run out of energy.
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