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« Reply #30 on: March 21, 2004, 11:16:46 pm »

I think I'll have to side with Falcon here. Even a friendly wrestling match, or using a sandbag to box brings out a certain amount of aggression, you are trying to win after all.

And there is never anythign such as "no chance of anything going wrong" Even if one of your untrained brawlers doesn't accidentally miss with his punch, his opponent may be sidestepping, dodgin or tripping when the punch is thrown, resulting in a critical hit. And even hits to the chest can be dangerous, hit someone when they're off balance, and you might just send them flying. This may cause them to bang their head in the floor when they go down, which in a unlucky situation could result in a concussion.

Also, if you get the same feeling as sparrign and boxing, why not go with that. I still think that is easier, as it demands less organization from you yourself, and pertains fewer risks.
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« Reply #31 on: March 21, 2004, 11:20:02 pm »

OK - Not full power, but in sparring, you learn to control how much power and when to stop the fist.
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« Reply #32 on: March 21, 2004, 11:26:45 pm »

Agreed. By hostility I meant wanting to harm your opponent for any reason other than a friendly fight. You're right, there are plenty of possibilities of disaster, but in my mind the sme goes with any full contact sport.
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« Reply #33 on: March 21, 2004, 11:26:57 pm »

Oh yes. That is a very important skill. You also learn where to stop your fist for your own safety. Without much training punching can damage your elbow.
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« Reply #34 on: March 21, 2004, 11:29:21 pm »

The bottom line is, I'm willing to take the risks because I think it's fun and stress releiving. You don't have to agree with me.
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« Reply #35 on: March 21, 2004, 11:33:27 pm »

Then why did you post it? To see who agrees with you?

Chrispy - Yeah, it si call hyper extension, you should never extend your are more then 95% of the way in a punch.
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« Reply #36 on: March 21, 2004, 11:35:22 pm »

Yes, but I thought we were discussing pros and cons of said idea. In that case "I'm willing to take the risks" isn't really a valid argument... And how can you be sure all your opponents know how to spar? That noone overextends thermselves? Seems you need a trainer...
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« Reply #37 on: March 21, 2004, 11:37:37 pm »

That's exactly why I posted it. I tried to explain that there's no reason for trainers and other precautionary things for what we're doing. I was kidding mainly at first, but it doesn't matter, no one seems to be agreeing. I think we've talked it to death. I've made my point.
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« Reply #38 on: March 21, 2004, 11:37:58 pm »

I have seen many a good sparrer put out for several weeks because of a "hotshot" young sparrer.


(Of which I am happy to say I am not!) Unlike other things such me posting like ICQ.
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« Reply #39 on: March 21, 2004, 11:40:05 pm »

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Yes, but I thought we were discussing pros and cons of said idea. In that case "I'm willing to take the risks" isn't really a valid argument... And how can you be sure all your opponents know how to spar? That noone overextends thermselves? Seems you need a trainer...


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That's exactly why I posted it. I tried to explain that there's no reason for trainers and other precautionary things for what we're doing. I was kidding mainly at first, but it doesn't matter, no one seems to be agreeing. I think we've talked it to death. I've made my point.


I fail to see the point made, nor the logical connection. Please elaborate.
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« Reply #40 on: March 21, 2004, 11:42:44 pm »

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Then why did you post it? To see who agrees with you?
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Maybe he was referring to that luki?

Never quoted myself before..... Interesting...
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« Reply #41 on: March 21, 2004, 11:44:52 pm »

Allright, Lukipela, I'm not going to explain this again,(the rules of this 'club'). The point I was trying to make is that there's no need for trainers and other precautions because the risk isn't high enough for that. It's hard to explain without you actually witnessing one of these fights, but the way we fight isn't to beat the other up. I'd say 99% of the hits are in the arms. The other is in the chest or back. We take care not to get hit in the sternum, or hit each other hard enough to do any real damage. We're all friends here. We're not actually trying to knock each other out. My other point is that it's fun and stress releiving, if again it's done in the right way.
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« Reply #42 on: March 21, 2004, 11:47:29 pm »

Well if you all enjoy it thats fine. I wouldnt say that there is no use for trainers and other precautions. Many people get hurt in situations such as yours.
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« Reply #43 on: March 21, 2004, 11:47:45 pm »

*Coughs

Risk not high enough? I have heard that before, you guys are punching each other, how high does it need to get? You get hit in a certain part in the body it will stay with you for the rest of your life.

EDIT: Sure, it will be a accident, but that does not help the person that just got a kidney taken out. (Yes, if punched lightly in the right spot in can disable a kidney.)
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« Reply #44 on: March 21, 2004, 11:51:59 pm »

Falcon, the same goes for when you're sparring or boxing with trainers. When you're playing any contact sport for that matter.

Lukipela, there is no reason for aggression, because there really is no winner. One person gives up when they've had enough and whoever doesn't give up doesn't receive any glory. WE're all doing this for the same reason.
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