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Thraddash Issues (spoiler)
« on: December 05, 2002, 05:35:51 am »

When I first encountered the Thraddash I sent them to help their masters in their war. Later in the game I went to zeta draconis for the aqua helix and the only option I have is to fight an unlimited horde of ships. After destroying about 30 or so I escape and return to the planet but I still don't have the option to search the surface of the planet without having to fight more. :-/ I broke down and looked in a walkthrough and it says I have to destroy 15 or so ships to gain their respect which I more than did. Was it a mistake to send them to help the Ur-quan? Or is there something I specifically have to do before this?
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Re: Thraddash Issues (spoiler)
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2002, 05:45:50 am »

iirc, ships killed at the aqua helix world or the thraddash homeworld don't count towards the kill total to gain their respect.
If you talk to the thraddash when you go to the aqua helix world, they should say something about you being so stupid to come there that none of your victories will be added to the secret kill tally they're keeping.
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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2002, 05:56:48 am »

Exactly as Mead says.  You actually have to kill 25 ships.  But only killing the entire group of ships you fight count towards that total.  Killing a group of 4 Thraddash ships out in Hyperspace would count, since you can kill them all.  Attacking the Thraddash at their homeworld (which is where by the way?) or the Aqua Helix planet is futile, since they have an infinite number of ships, and you can never kill the whole group, and thus put them in your "Thraddash killed" total.
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Re: Thraddash Issues (spoiler)
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2002, 06:31:54 am »

Are you sure you did it correctly? Check the ingame map. Are the Traddash moving toward Ur-Quan space or is there sphere just sitting there? If it's already back from Ur-Quan space then you have a problem. Maybe sending the Ilwarth will ALSO allow you to search the planet, but I had never had to try, so I wouldn't know.
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Re: Thraddash Issues (spoiler)
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2002, 08:00:03 am »

Ok now I get it...the kills that count are from ships in hyperspace or travelling around in systems. Thx all! Cheesy
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Re: Thraddash Issues (spoiler)
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2002, 07:24:54 pm »

i dunno about any of you guys, but i never had to kill 25 thraddash.. i just told them to go help the Ur-quan fight.. then i proceeded to Zeta Draconis 1 to steal the aqua helix.. i've done this twice with no problems and without fighting a SINGLE thraddash
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Re: Thraddash Issues (spoiler)
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2002, 08:48:56 pm »

You can also send the Illwrath up to fight them with the Umgah Caster.  After a few years of fighting they'll kill each other off and you can just go in and pick the helix up.

BTW- If you do gain an alliance with them, and then steal the helix, they won't be friendly anymore.
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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2002, 09:52:36 pm »

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i dunno about any of you guys, but i never had to kill 25 thraddash.. i just told them to go help the Ur-quan fight.. then i proceeded to Zeta Draconis 1 to steal the aqua helix.. i've done this twice with no problems and without fighting a SINGLE thraddash


However, I think you'll find that if you make friends with them by killing the 25, you can build their ships (up until you get the helix, anyway) given how comprehensively Torches can own computer controlled ur-quan and Kohr-ah, it is well worth building a couple of them for your fleet.
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Re: Thraddash Issues (spoiler)
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2002, 06:33:37 am »

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i dunno about any of you guys, but i never had to kill 25 thraddash.. i just told them to go help the Ur-quan fight.. then i proceeded to Zeta Draconis 1 to steal the aqua helix.. i've done this twice with no problems and without fighting a SINGLE thraddash


heh. In all the times I've played this game, I never even knew it was possible to ally yourself with them (I read a few things about it online, but I've never thought much about it until now). I've always sent them after the Ur-Quan and gotten the helix. I'll have to try killing 25 of them in my next game.
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Re: Thraddash Issues (spoiler)
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2002, 08:04:24 am »

After laying claim to their aqua helix I sent the Ilwrath to play with them Wink

Now I'm stuck with the Syreen :-/ ...I've had the Melnorme as well as the Mycon tell me about their deep children and have an egg shell yet I still don't have the option of talking to the Syreen about what happened to their homeworld...or do I have to talk to the Mycon's homeworld?
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Re: Thraddash Issues (spoiler)
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2002, 01:39:40 pm »

If my memory serves me right (which I think it does), you only have to kill 10 groups of ships, not 25 ships.

And Azrael, have you tried asking more info from the Melnorme? I think you need to ask him twice to get the correct Syreen info. Or did he already say specifically that the Mycon destroyed their world?
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« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2002, 09:54:59 am »

for the Syreen thing, you need to talk to a random Mycon in hyperspace and hear what they have to say about the Deep Children. Then go to the Syreen
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Re: Thraddash Issues (spoiler)
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2002, 12:38:43 pm »

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If my memory serves me right (which I think it does), you only have to kill 10 groups of ships, not 25 ships.


It's 25.  I just checked a few nights ago.

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And Azrael, have you tried asking more info from the Melnorme? I think you need to ask him twice to get the correct Syreen info. Or did he already say specifically that the Mycon destroyed their world?


Strangely enough for me, the conversation option already seemed to be there once I got one of the egg case fragments and talked to Talana, regardless of whether I had talked to the Melnorme.  Maybe it's just me; I don't know.
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Re: Thraddash Issues (spoiler)
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2002, 02:16:17 pm »

I think you have to take the egg shells to Earth's starbase and have them researched. Before this, you don't actually know that they are products of the Mycon.
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Re: Thraddash Issues (spoiler)
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2002, 04:00:38 pm »

If you beat enough Thraddash ships they become your allies. If you steal the helix, they will attack you, but you can still build their ships.
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