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Re: The worst ship?
« Reply #45 on: April 14, 2004, 08:26:54 pm »

Indeed, there isn't such thing as "the worst ship"... Every ship can beat a other one, otherwise there would be a master-of-them-all ship.

Also, it's all about tactics. If you use a chmmr and deplete your energy by tractoring alot, you're dead. If you know how to pilot a ship well, you should be pretty awesome with it..

Also, note that the computer is supreme with some ships? Such as the mauler, the drone, the fury, and the Blade.

Damn, i really want to play some of you guys here in a battle. Playing against the computer sucks a bit, just because it uses the same tactics over and over again (go to enemy, shoot, it turns towards you? run or shoot). Human players are able to see your tactics, and alter theirs to set the game on their hand.
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Re: The worst ship?
« Reply #46 on: April 18, 2004, 08:58:07 pm »

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It's either hamlet or caesar.

Anyhoo, I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the zoqfot for worst ship. I can do significantly more damage with a drone than I can with a stinger.


Huh Zoqfot is actually one of the best ships compared to it's price. With zoqfot its possible to destroy ur-quan and slower ships like vux and ilwrath are also easy targets for stinger.

Umgah Drone is the worst ship there is. Its too slow, it's primary weapon is almost useless and it's speciality sucks too. Try to beat ur-quan with drone, I can promise that you cant do it.
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Re: The worst ship?
« Reply #47 on: April 28, 2004, 04:34:56 pm »

" Anyhoo, I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the zoqfot for worst ship. I can do significantly more damage with a drone than I can with a stinger."

The zoqfot is my *favorite* ship.  I can beat the 300 point armada on awesome with only zoqfots.  That's a near 100% win rate too, not "I managed to do it once."

The only ship I couldn't master was the Supox Blade.  No matter what I did, I just couldn't kill a Chmmr with anything resembling 30 points of Supox.
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Re: The worst ship?
« Reply #48 on: April 28, 2004, 08:36:58 pm »

Which is ironic considering how little the Chmmr can do about a decent Supox pilot ripping him to shreds.

The trick is to maintain the longest range you can manage. The tractor is weaker at longer distances, you see. At long range, you can maintain distance with just the reversed thrust. At medium range, which you will end up in from time to time, you must use reverse AND lateral thrust. Alternately, you can while using lateral thrust release the special key so you turn and whip by the Chmmr.

Once again, do this before you are pulled close. Your pods are medium-ranged, so use that range.
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Re: The worst ship?
« Reply #49 on: April 28, 2004, 09:37:14 pm »

ahhh - I thought that the tractor affected all things the same regardless of the range.

One thing that should happen though, is it just me or does it affect smaller ships more?
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« Reply #50 on: April 30, 2004, 07:47:30 am »

I'm not sure, but I think the rate of the tractor has something to do with the rate of acceleration of the ship being pulled.  So for the most part it would affect smaller faster ships more.  Except for the peice of junk drone.  Stupid blobbies...
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« Reply #51 on: April 30, 2004, 11:18:58 am »

The tractor works only well with a parallel line in the front of the ship.  The tractor gets weaker away from that line.  As an example, the Supox thrusting backwards CAN AND WILL get sucked in towards the Chmmr, but if the Supox uses the lateral thrust every once in a while to stay away from that parallel line it can stay away from the Chmmr all day.

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ahhh - I thought that the tractor affected all things the same regardless of the range.

One thing that should happen though, is it just me or does it affect smaller ships more?

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Re: The worst ship?
« Reply #52 on: April 30, 2004, 10:04:30 pm »

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I'm not sure, but I think the rate of the tractor has something to do with the rate of acceleration of the ship being pulled.  So for the most part it would affect smaller faster ships more.  Except for the peice of junk drone.  Stupid blobbies...



So what your saying is that the chmmr does not affect the umagh?

To have some fun, just take a chmmr versus 5 drones. You can slingshot that ship into the planet so hard, it would kill everyone of impact if it were real. That is fun to try sometimes...
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« Reply #53 on: May 01, 2004, 05:03:47 am »

The tracter is also weak vs a ship flying sideways to it. So rotate your orz turrets to a wierd angle a let loose Grin
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Re: The worst ship?
« Reply #54 on: May 01, 2004, 07:07:32 pm »

The tractor beam does affect smaller ships more, which is pretty logical. As an example, the Shofixti scout gets totally out of control when captured in tractor beam. I guess it has something to do with the ships mass. Maybe someone who knows the code could explain it?
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Re: The worst ship?
« Reply #55 on: May 02, 2004, 07:41:26 am »

The Syreen Penetrator gets pulled around by the tractor beam worse than anything else as far as I've seen. I would assume this is intentional; they didn't want Syreen beating down Chmmr.
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Re: The worst ship?
« Reply #56 on: May 03, 2004, 01:06:21 am »

There seems to be a mis conception about the Druuge Mauler you don't NEED to burn crew to regain energy it does regenerate on it's own, just incredibly slowly.  As for the (worst is not a very good word) least versatile ship would have to be the Earthling Crusier it can basiclly only kill Mycon's(like what ship can't)

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Re: The worst ship?
« Reply #57 on: May 03, 2004, 01:37:09 am »

Drone is in fact one of the best ships if we consider the prices. Skilled Umgah pilot can beat or hurt badly a Dreadnough, a Marauder or a Broodhome. It's also very effective against Maulers.
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