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"Very Young Orangutans..."
« on: August 08, 2004, 03:01:48 am »

"Very Young Orangutans Could Grow Bananas, Perhaps Rather Well." Hayes says this. I'm trying to figure out what the hell it means.

I'm guessing planet value goes in this order: ?, Yellow, Orange, Cyan, Green, Blue, Purple, Red, White.

Yeah, so, what's the "Very" supposed to be? I don't recall violet planets being particularly valuable. It is a proven fact that Yellow and Orange planets rule absolutely, however.
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Re: "Very Young Orangutans..."
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2004, 05:02:56 am »

ruby worlds maybe? they appear violet dont they?

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Re: "Very Young Orangutans..."
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2004, 05:06:37 am »

Judging by the code, the V indeed stands for Violet.
There are several types of violet worlds, and while neither of them has any rare minerals, they all have a large quantity of good minerals (except a violet gas giant).
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« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2004, 06:35:33 am »

"'Very Young Orangutans Could Grow Bananas, Perhaps Rather Well.' Hayes says this. I'm trying to figure out what the hell it means. "

Actually I've always interpreted it to mean stars more than planets, in reverse order, in terms of mineral density (Total RU / # of planets).  At least with SC2, violet worlds were always crappy (2 or 3 common deposits, not worth the fuel to make the trip to get them), so  that tells me this isn't too correct with worlds in general, but in my playing time, I have determined that this seems to be the consistent thing in the game.

White, Red, P (not sure it's purple, purple is violet), Blue, Green, etc. - in terms of mineral density, not # of RU.  But usually it almost always pays to visit White stars assuming you can get the minerals off of the worlds (most RU, cheapest RU to get = MOST PROFIT!).
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« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2004, 06:40:31 am »

The V does indeed stand for Violet, and P for Pink. I'm not too sure about how consistent this is either, though it does make more sense if you interpret it as density of mineral deposits rather than total RU per planet. The color is the simple color of the planet graphic on the exploration screen, without any deeper meaning that I can tell.

You'll be better off in the long run just looking at each world and scanning it (which takes no fuel) rather than slavishly following this mnemonic. More important for saving fuel and more ultimately useful is remembering that hotter stars are better than colder, with the caveat that hotter stars create more hotspots on the planets. Trying to mine anything in the vicinity of a hot supergiant is hell unless you have upgrades.
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Re: "Very Young Orangutans..."
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2004, 07:30:21 am »

Whatever it looks like in the game, P stands for Purple.

According to the source:
Violet: Oolite, Yttric, Fluorescent, Ultraviolet
Yellow: Lanthanide, Treasure, Urea, Auric, Plutonic, Rainbow
Orange: Metal, Radioactive, Shattered
Cyan: Opalescent, Sapphire, Organic, Xenolithic
Green: Quasi-Degenerate, Cyanic, Acid, Alkali, Halide, Green, Copper, Redux, Primordial, Emerald, Chlorine, Magnetic, Iodine
Blue: Ultramarine, Noble, Azure, Water, Telluric, Hydrocarbon
Purple: Chondrite, Purple, Super-Dense, Pellucid, Vinylogous
Red: Carbide, Dust, Crimson, Cimmerian, Infrared, Ruby, Magma, Maroon
White: Selenic

Gas giants come in the colours Blue, Cyan, Green, Gray, Orange, Purple, Red, Violet, and Yellow.


I'll make a proper Star Control Facts of this some day (with more info).

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« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2004, 09:00:56 am »

Well, I was wondering about this because I'm trying to use it in my guide.

You'll be better off in the long run just looking at each world and scanning it (which takes no fuel) rather than slavishly following this mnemonic.

The mneumonic isn't great, but I remember seeking out yellow and orange worlds religiously to great success ages ago when I didn't have the good planets memorized.
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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2004, 09:06:42 am »

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Whatever it looks like in the game, P stands for Purple.

According to the source:
Violet: Oolite, Yttric, Fluorescent, Ultraviolet
Yellow: Lanthanide, Treasure, Urea, Auric, Plutonic, Rainbow
Orange: Metal, Radioactive, Shattered
Cyan: Opalescent, Sapphire, Organic, Xenolithic
Green: Quasi-Degenerate, Cyanic, Acid, Alkali, Halide, Green, Copper, Redux, Primordial, Emerald, Chlorine, Magnetic, Iodine
Blue: Ultramarine, Noble, Azure, Water, Telluric, Hydrocarbon
Purple: Chondrite, Purple, Super-Dense, Pellucid, Vinylogous
Red: Carbide, Dust, Crimson, Cimmerian, Infrared, Ruby, Magma, Maroon
White: Selenic

Gas giants come in the colours Blue, Cyan, Green, Gray, Orange, Purple, Red, Violet, and Yellow.


I'll make a proper Star Control Facts of this some day (with more info).



*blink* Well. *That's* weird. 'Cause the ones you listed under "Violet" sure look pink in my version of the game.

Huh. Goes to show. Anyway I think I disagree with the analysis of the "violet" ones being orange and yellow; the best planets you're likely to run across on a regular basis are Radioactive Worlds, Auric Worlds and Treasure Worlds.
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« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2004, 09:11:57 am »

Okay, that last post didn't make much sense. Sorry.

Um, orange and yellow are more consistently good than "violet" (pink) in my experience, anyway.
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« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2004, 10:10:40 am »

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Whatever it looks like in the game, P stands for Purple.

According to the source:
Violet: Oolite, Yttric, Fluorescent, Ultraviolet
Yellow: Lanthanide, Treasure, Urea, Auric, Plutonic, Rainbow
Orange: Metal, Radioactive, Shattered
Cyan: Opalescent, Sapphire, Organic, Xenolithic
Green: Quasi-Degenerate, Cyanic, Acid, Alkali, Halide, Green, Copper, Redux, Primordial, Emerald, Chlorine, Magnetic, Iodine
Blue: Ultramarine, Noble, Azure, Water, Telluric, Hydrocarbon
Purple: Chondrite, Purple, Super-Dense, Pellucid, Vinylogous
Red: Carbide, Dust, Crimson, Cimmerian, Infrared, Ruby, Magma, Maroon
White: Selenic

Gas giants come in the colours Blue, Cyan, Green, Gray, Orange, Purple, Red, Violet, and Yellow.


I'll make a proper Star Control Facts of this some day (with more info).



pink/violet worlds, in my experiance, yeild good quanties of higher quality minerials. after i read your post meep, i remebered when i first played how i saught out these worlds along with gold and orange like shiver stated before. they do contain good quality minerials.

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Re: "Very Young Orangutans..."
« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2004, 10:44:20 am »

I just mined EVERYTHING within a 50 fuel cost radius around Sol, then i ran out of time and started again, I had carefully noted super valuable worlds, and simply proceeded to mine them, and i was set.

Damn the first time around was boring =p
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« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2004, 10:38:06 pm »

One more question. Are any of the deep purple worlds ever any good?
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« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2004, 07:20:45 am »

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One more question. Are any of the deep purple worlds ever any good?


Only the Pellucid ones, which have exotics, though usually very few; some are generated with nothing at all. The rest are just common compounds, never worth it, or in the case of Super-Dense Worlds, base metals, which are only sort of worth it early on and in their case still aren't because of the high gravity and earthquakes.
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« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2004, 02:06:25 pm »

One question, which single planet is the richest in the entire game? We probably don't know, but which one does everyone think it is? Tectonics, Weather and Heat don't matter.
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Re: "Very Young Orangutans..."
« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2004, 04:02:33 pm »

According to the SC2 hit guide that came with the 3DO version, the planet is likely to be Beta Scorpii 5.
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