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« on: August 19, 2004, 05:54:23 pm »

Since we all seem to be from different areas with different backgrounds,
I'm curious to see what people have to say on the topic of religion.
Now, I really hope to avoid any religious preaching, bashing or
saber rattling. I'm just curious as to what religion (if any) you folks
follow.

Personally, I don't think I fit into any category. I'm not Christian or Buddist, nor am I Atheist. I have a strong spiritual side, but my beliefs (or perhaps
ideas is a better word) do not always parallel organised religion.

I enjoy learning about other religions and looking for similarities and
differences in each one.
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« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2004, 08:41:06 pm »

I am from Canada, and am a christian, even though I behave more like you described yourself. I believe in the principles of christianity (with some notable exceptions) and not the history.
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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2004, 12:25:59 am »

The Question has not been answered, which is why this issue exists in the first place. I can't really go into detail on what I think of this matter because that would involve ruthlessly slamming on religious fundamentalism, moderate "pick 'n choose" religion, and atheism.
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« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2004, 12:29:19 am »

Can the UQM Forums maintain their air of respect and civility when confronted with a discussion topic that has driven people, quite literally, to bloodshed?  Stay tuned!

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« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2004, 02:47:25 am »

Now how could anyone who believes in the morals of christianity cause bloodshed Roll Eyes.
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« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2004, 03:02:00 am »

I am an atheist, but I'm still christian. I had in mind to ... pull myself off of it, but I have tons of other things to do so I haven't done it. Yet. Tongue
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« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2004, 03:23:34 am »

I beleive in a higher power, or unifying force, but not in god.

oh yeah, and I'm a west coast american.
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« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2004, 05:08:01 am »

I am also Canadian (east coast).
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Re: Earth Air Fire Water Pizza
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2004, 07:09:39 am »

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Now how could anyone who believes in the morals of christianity cause bloodshed Roll Eyes.

I'm going to ignore the rolling-eyes smiley and answer seriously. Wink
Someone who devoutly believes in the morals of Christianity can very easily cause bloodshed (in the defense of another person).
"And as you wish that men would do to you, do so to them." (the golden rule)
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"To him who strikes you on the cheek, offer the other also;"
Are two quotes which many people put together and use to conclude that devout Christians _must_ (by decree from Jesus himself) be pacifists to their death.  While this might be true regarding a Christian's own safety, they say nothing about defending someone else by use of deadly force.  Jesus didn't say "If a man strikes your neighbor on the cheek, offer him yours (or worse, walk away or offer your neighbor's other cheek)".
The only logical difficulty I might have is with wishing someone to use deadly force to prevent me from murdering someone else (a necessary desire for the golden rule to hold true).  But, I suppose that my killer would be preventing me from commiting a grevious wrong (sin; mortal sin according to Catholic church), and I'd be shuffling off to the pearly gates... In that respect I suppose it remains self consistant.

Hopefully that didn't constitute preaching.  Wink

Edit: Oh yeah, I'm Christian, not Buddhist, despite my "Enlightened" status.
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« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2004, 08:06:07 am »

Good answer
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Re: Earth Air Fire Water Pizza
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2004, 02:56:18 am »

Me? Atheist plain and simple.

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« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2004, 05:01:12 am »

Hmmm... You forgot us. I am a Jew. Nothing more.
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« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2004, 07:17:31 am »

I guess I also follow personal beliefs that don't really follow any specific religion. As cheesy as the following may sound, it's the best I can do in describing things like that. I believe that there exists something that cannot be directly perceived and measured, a sort of spiritual plane of being, if you prefer. I believe there is some kind of conciousness around that you might as well call God or a god or several gods. I don't know. What I do know is that there is a whole lot of weird stuff happening that I don't think pure science will ever completely explain. As for what happens to people after death, I have no idea. Everybody finds out one day conclusively so why take any stress over it?  Wink

For religion in general, I try hard to not blame religion itself for anything but the people who use it. Like any ideological system I think it's a tool at some level that isn't bad or good in itself. It's like how some people think communism is a horrible system to be living in and some blame capitalism for all the evil in the world. The system itself does nothing, it's the people in it.
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« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2004, 07:54:57 am »

You made some very good points there.

I would go a step farther about life after death. The living should NOT know what happens. That would lead to mass suicide/mass depression and atheism. (atheism isnt bad, but people need something to help them do the right thing, and religion fills that role for many people).
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Re: Earth Air Fire Water Pizza
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2004, 01:25:45 pm »

Are you implying that I am some kind of immoral monster then?  Roll Eyes

(I know you're not I'm just being an annoying nitpicker, and besides concidering my avatar you might answer yes Tongue)
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