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Announcing the Ultronomicon
« on: September 03, 2004, 06:47:34 am »

The Ultronimicon, our new wiki database, is now officially open. We've chosen the Creative Commons Attribution 2.0 license for all its text.

The goal is to make it a complete reference work for everything relating to The Ur-Quan Masters, including the Star Control universe, gameplay, technical tips, and developer info.

I encourage everyone to write a bit about their favourite Ur-Quan Masters subject, so that we will have something to show soon.


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Re: Announcing the Ultronomicon
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2004, 09:56:59 am »

For those unfamiliar with the wiki principle, the idea is that everyone can modify and add pages.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki for some information.


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« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2004, 05:43:56 pm »

I *REALY* like the name, just had to say that. A mix between 2 very interesting plots (a game and a set of movies, both funny).


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Re: Announcing the Ultronomicon
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2004, 10:06:33 pm »

I take it you're talking about the Evil Dead movies. But actually the "Necronomicon" was invented much earlier, by Lovecraft.
(see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necronomicon).
I hope you still like the name.


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Re: Announcing the Ultronomicon
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2004, 02:14:38 am »

Yeah I do still like the name. I was aware of the Evil Dead movies using a pre-invented concept of the Book of the Dead but no details on the original concept, thanks for the link!


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Re: Announcing the Ultronomicon
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2004, 02:57:54 pm »

Sweet! Sounds terrific, good idea everyone =p

Ultronomicon *thumbs up*


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Re: Announcing the Ultronomicon
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2004, 08:49:12 pm »

Just added brief summaries of almost all the artifacts, and a detailed note on the Taalo.


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Re: Announcing the Ultronomicon
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2004, 09:29:54 pm »

Ah good. There's a lot more to be said about these subjects, but that's the nice thing about Wikis, things can be gradually extended by different people.
You may want to look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_edit_a_page for information on how to use wiki style elements, to add links to other pages for instance.


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Re: Announcing the Ultronomicon
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2004, 04:02:12 am »

Art: please read the comments to your articles (in particular the Talking pet one).

I would try to contact you in another way, but you seem to be neither registered in Ultronomicon, nor on the boards.


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Re: Announcing the Ultronomicon
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2004, 01:47:44 pm »

Thats Art. =p

Isnt the Wiki Database sort of really vulnerable to morons? IE, If i were a moron (=p) then i could just go and type rude or otherwise stupid comments all over our board?


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« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2004, 07:18:38 pm »

It's theoretically possible, but it generally doesn't happen. Especially since any given edit can be backed out by the administrator, and the administrator can presumably also ban by IP or the like. Don't forget that you have to have an account to make your edits, in general. That makes it easier to (a) prevent spambots, and (b) keep people from making fools out of themselves more than once.


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« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2004, 08:23:23 pm »

um...Unless it made an account for me, I didn't register on the Wiki boards =p


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Re: Announcing the Ultronomicon
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2004, 08:46:58 pm »

Actually, on wikipedia it does happen. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dealing_with_vandalism on how they deal with this.


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Re: Announcing the Ultronomicon
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2004, 09:16:54 pm »

I was going to write a Wiki entry on it, but I have the feeling that it would be easier to find such sentiments here:

I think the Ultronomicon is in need of a published "style guide" that contributors are invited to read and adhere to. The current situation resembles "a million monkeys on a million typewriters", and the articles, while high in quality at this point, are uneven in appearance; and the editing capabilities of a web browser do not lend themselves well to "smoothing over" oft-repeated mistakes (cut-and-paste into vi, and back again when done seems to work, though)

I don't know what precise level of pedantry should be applied, but I think that at the very least, people should use the nifty categorization features of MediaWiki (add a [[Category:Something_or_Other]] to the bottom of your pages when applicable) to keep the site organized, and cross-references to other articles should be highly encouraged (although you should only link the first occurrence of any work that links to another article, not every single one) What types of constraints would the contributors so far be comfortable with?

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Re: Announcing the Ultronomicon
« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2004, 12:49:52 am »

Wikipedia also has people who just clean up existing pages. I don't think it's really a problem that people don't know how to use the wiki syntax (even though it's really simple).

What I think would be more important is some consistency about the content.
- What to call the captain? I personally prefer to just use "The Captain"
- How to call the SIS. SIS isn't a name that ever occurs in the game, so that's probably not the best choice. Something like "The Captain's Precursor ship" may be better.
- How to handle things that may or not happen in the story. My opinion here is that until there's a TFB SC3 we shouldn't assume anything about what is the real story and just say "the captain has the option to...". An alternative would be not to say anything about the story at all. Which brings me to
- what about spoilers? I don't think we should try to avoid spoilers in the encyclopedia part of the wiki. People will get spoiled anyhow if they look at the Necronomicon. Avoiding spoilers would make the result less complete

I think that when we reach an agreement on this we should make a style page in wikipedia where this is all described.

I also don't think linking should always only be done for the first occurance of a term. When the document doesn't have to be accessed sequentially (like when a topic has many chapters, or for a FAQ), each first occurance in a section should be linked, so that people don't have to search through the entire article to find the link.


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