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This has been bugging me for YEARS !
« on: December 07, 2002, 12:27:37 am »

Yes, not months,but YEARS !
I am slightly off the edge here, but i just want to speak out and begin with http://www.figu.org.

What I am talking about is: The FIGU is an organisation based on one man's UFO encounter (here, in real life...hello ?! Cheesy) that is supposed to be ongoing still. If you are too lazy to check the link and find out more, i ll tell you briefly about it: Billy Meier, a Swiss farmer, had begun his contacts with extraterrestrials in late 70s (with 'unaware' contacts right from the 40-50s), shot their craft with photo equipment, and most important has preserved  A LOT OF CONTACT NOTES (several thousands of pages).

Now what has this to do with Star Control ?`Well, i ve read some of the pages, and personally I think they are genuine, as they express some sort of very deep wisdom. One of the pages is quite long and tells the past, present and future of humanity.

Wouldn't by chance Fred and Paul have been inspired by Billy Meiers contact reports ? Or wouldnt there even be an untold mystery that we never will know which goes around just WHERE AND WHEN the story began ?

Some of the similarities, i find staggering, for example the histroy lineage telling that humans DID NOT originate on Earth, and are instead a scientific DNA experiemnt (manufactured species) by extraterrestrials (analogy with Arilou altering human DNA, and being our "protectors"). Those extraterrestrials that have manufactured us are supposed to be seeking us, as humans had taken refuge from MArs to Earth (reason: environmental cataclysms), and they have been doing so for eons, also having other species as targets on their cleansing mission. This is real life, but isn't this SO LIKE the Ur-Quan hunting sentient races for the purpose of purifying the galaxy (cleansing). And there is even more: The contact reports by Billy Meier also speak of us creating a sub-species for labour by mixing our own DNA with that of pigs. The result will have been more violent, more robust, smarter and stronger human derivations. Doesnt it remind you of Androsynth ?

The list goes on, but those contact reports are quite vast and I havent read them since like a year ago, so i dont remember much of them. But to this day, i am hunted by the thought that the two share some kind of bizarre reason for them to coexist, to put it this way Wink

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Re: This has been bugging me for YEARS !
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2002, 12:32:19 am »

Naw, that farmer just played SC to get his ideas.

(this is a joke)
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Re: This has been bugging me for YEARS !
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2002, 12:33:49 am »

Didn´t read your text too well but as for Arilou being the human race protector is not as sweet as it sounds. The only intrest they have in us is similar anatomy. We are their replacement parts! (sorry for the spoil. This is revealed in SC3)
And as for Ur-Quans they are not hunting sentient races they are trying to end all conflict in space by putting every race under theyr level of exictance under slave shields. Koh-arkh (typo) are the ones who lost theyr ability to think strait a few eons ago and started to systematicly anhilate all sentient races.
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« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2002, 12:35:12 am »

hmm... is it me or my keyboard  Huh
any way ... i ment to say didnt read your text too well instead of the Didn´t ...  Tongue
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« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2002, 12:42:04 am »

Well, i didnt say the similiarities were THAT strong. Nevertheless, if you one day take a cup of good cofee latê and take some time to read contact report 251 (only 5-6 are currently available online), it is covered there in more detail.

Arilou still have the same attitude towards humans, as those mentioned by Meier. Who knows the truth ? We know what we are told. Both are watching us Wink

Well, not Ur-Quan perhaps, but Kzer-Za are hunting humans down. Meier doesn't say that humans are the only target, and this makes me believe there are similiarities involved.

Ha, recalled another funny resemblance:
Meier mentiones a fraction of people who disappeared under unusual circumstances involving UFOs and ETs, and also a fraction of those who had been "taken" for whatever reasons - he was told by his interviewers (ET origin), that sometimes those unlucky individuals are kidnapped or "borrowed" to be transported for exhibitioning in extraterrestrial zoos in some "far corners of space". This looks like Admiral Zex's fetish doesnt it ?
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« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2002, 01:07:25 am »

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Didn't read your text too well but as for Arilou being the human race protector is not as sweet as it sounds. The only intrest they have in us is similar anatomy. We are their replacement parts! (sorry for the spoil. This is revealed in SC3)

And that is one of the reasons I didn't like that game.  All the plot points were so...lazy.  In SC2 the Arilou tell you that their motives are multiple and their desires are complex, and then SC3 comes along, and suddenly they have but one motive and desire: survival, and we are simply means to that end.

Pardon me, (especially because I'm sure I could scarcely do better) but that's simply the product of lazy storytelling.  Given that the Arilou were extra-dimensional, their origins and interactions with hunams had basically no boundaries.  Their interest in us could have been the result of anything, but they chose to take the obvious, cynical "one group exploiting another" tack.  Lame.

But, the same could be said for just about every other plot point in that wretched game.  Sometimes it pays to hire talented writers..
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« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2002, 03:16:38 am »

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« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2002, 05:52:57 am »

SCII didn't say humans weren't from Earth. They simply stated that the Arilou "modified" human's DNA. Which would mean that there had to be humans around to modify and so I highly doubt SCIII's nonsense. Anyway, I don't want to put down your personal beliefs, but I think you've gotten way too hooked into Sci-Fi. If you take the DNA of every single animal on earth (including humans) you will find similarities. Which would mean that we're related to them and have split into different groups at one point or another. So, if that farmer's journals were to be true these aliens had to introduce the version that started these many groups of animal, millions of years ago.
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« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2002, 08:04:08 am »

actually, you will find more than similarites.. There is a 2% difference between the DNA of a bacterium and that of a human
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« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2002, 08:17:45 am »

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actually, you will find more than similarites.. There is a 2% difference between the DNA of a bacterium and that of a human


Well if I remember correctly it's yeast, not bacteria, but thank you for that. I was trying to find a way to link humans with all life on this planet, (way past just millions of years) but I couldn't think of anything off hand, that wouldn't pass proof and go more into theory.
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« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2002, 08:39:06 am »

Aliens?
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« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2002, 02:02:17 pm »

Ummmmmm.....oooookay.  I thought that Star Control II was fiction, silly me Roll Eyes
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« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2002, 10:02:43 am »

Soylent Green is People! PEOPLE!!!  Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2002, 09:36:07 pm »

There was also some SC2 similairities in some TV shows. Like the Vree in Babylon 5 looked a lot like the Arilou (and their ships too) or the Taelons in Earth: Final Conflict (having a hidden adgenda towards Earth, the ID travel capability, etc). Maybe it's just me though...
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« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2002, 10:37:26 pm »

The Arilou/Taelon/Flying Saucer People archetype is becoming more and more universal in SciFi.  I like it.  Almost invariably, (the Vree being an exception), the race is advanced, has a hidden motive, and (if we know of them) claim to have a benevolent, helpful agenda.

That being said, I seriously doubt that TFB looked specifically at any one website to get the Arilou!  The archetype is already there, and nearly universal!  I doubt they even had to look at ONE website!  Flying saucers are simply a modern-day myth that TFB put in their game.
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