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Asrial
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About a month ago, I moved my SC2:UQM directory over to my D drive so I could wipe C and re-install XP.
Just a few minutes ago I fire the game up only to realize my saved game is missing.
After some research, I discovered why.
Any chance of changing the saved game location from "C:\Documents and Settings\Asrial\Application Data\uqm\save" to the actual directory of the game itself?
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Asrial
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The trouble is locating/remembering the saved game if you're wanting to wipe Windows.
There's 49 saved game slots, does it really need to be broken down further into the different user profiles for Windows?
Just toss the saved games into a saved game sub-directory under the directory that the uqm.exe is started from.
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meep-eep
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Microsoft seems to be trying to separate the unchanging program and data files (which can be read-only for anyone but the administrator) from the user-specific changable data files (which can be only accessable to the owner). Even though not much Windows software follows those guidelines, it is still a good idea.
Each user should be able to have his own saved games and config, protected from accidental overwriting by other users. It's not a matter of not having enough save slots.
If you recklessly delete your "Documents and Settings" folder (along with the rest of your C drive), without making a backup, then you've only got yourself to blame. You may yet run into other programs that won't work anymore as they did before.
Also, if you wipe your Windows dir, you're deleting the registry as well, which contains settings for even more programs. If you reinstall Windows, you should really reinstall all applications too. This would mean that any settings and saved games for your games would have to be backed up and put back later. Ideally, if every application would follow the "Application Data" scheme that Microsoft advices, you would only have to save that dir (for all users), instead of the save files for every application individually.
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Profound_Darkness
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another nice thought would be if there were a shortcut that could be made and placed in the UQM install dir or elsewhere(part of the install package) that would bring the user to the proper dir.
Something like this file...
windows shortcut to appdata\uqm\ folder.
I don't know if win95/98 will evaluate environment variables like that but winme/2k/xp should.
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« Last Edit: September 25, 2004, 06:05:04 am by Profound_Darkness »
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meep-eep
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I think you mean "trusted computing". But that's not what this is about. This is about separation of privileges. Multi-user systems have had this for decades, and Windows is only recently beginning to act like one. Separation of privileges is a good thing.
The idea is that different users can have different privileges. Even if you're the only user on your computer, it's still a good idea to have a separate user for the system administration. That way, you can't accidentally screw up your whole system, and the damage that something which exploits a security hole in an application you run as your normal user can do is limited.
Ideally, every system service would run with its own privileges. So if you run a web server, and it is exploited, your private files will be safe. (But even on modern *nix systems they don't go this far).
You'd still have total control over your computer; you can always log in as Administrator/root/supervisor. I'd say even more so, as you have the power restrict what your programs can do.
The thing with Trusted Computing is that you can't control what exactly you run on your own computer anymore. Separation of privileges is something different.
Having the saved games in a separate location has an other advantage; you could just delete the program while keeping the saved games, without having to carefully investigate which file belongs to which. And you could even have multiple versions of the game installed, sharing the same saved games. If I'm not mistaken, if you use "roaming" in Windows (which I personally never did), you would automatically be able to access your uqm config and saved games from other machines as well.
Edit: some typos fixed
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« Last Edit: September 26, 2004, 02:17:56 pm by meep-eep »
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I'm not stupid enough to delete explorer.exe, or any other critical system file,
Never accidentally moved a folder into another folder when clicking on it in the tree view of explorer?
I agree that user screwups are not as big a deal as in unix, as you have little power over your system in Windows anyhow.
But separation of privileges doesn't only protect you against your own mistakes, but also against the mistakes of the programmers that created the stuff you run on your system. But I guess that if you run your own firewall, don't use Internet Explorer, don't use Outlook, don't use MSN, frequently run Windows Update, and frequently update all other network software, you're safe from the worst offenders. Still, you may only have to run one piece of software you forgot to update, and your whole system lies open.
and I like having the power to do whatever I want on my PC whenever I want.
And that's why Windows is still one big security hole. Because Microsoft knows that users would rather work on a virus infected, spyware-ridden zombie PC, than have to type in a password before doing something critical.
Now with XP SP2 they seem to have finally realised that a little inconvenience can save people from a lot of inconvenience. Inconvenience not only for the ignorant Windows users, but everyone who gets spammed by virus mails, and in fact everyone on the internet whose connection gets so much slower because peoples infected Windows PCs are clogging up the network trying to find new victims.
Another thing, when I want to remove a game from my system, I shouldnt have to go on a witch hunt for saved games or settings or profiles or whatever...Everything that is related to that game that came with the game, should be contained, in its entirety, in the smegging file I set it to, the folder I install it to.
Or you could select uninstall... that way also the junk a program left in your registry should be deleted.
Microsoft just seem to want to really irritate the hell out of me...
There's a lot to be said against Microsoft, but separation of priviliges is a good thing. And long overdue too.
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Thats a lot of space.