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« Reply #45 on: October 08, 2004, 01:39:48 pm »

That chenjesu/chmmr looks nice... ^^


About the ending movie:
http://www.classicgaming.com/starcontrol/3do/movies.shtml
either that, or open the content zip (\content\packagesuqm-0.3-content.zip) and extract all files in the "slides\ending" folder (from within the zip, that is). Now you can read the PC ending sequence, and look at it's images... Nothing much, though...
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« Reply #46 on: October 08, 2004, 09:20:50 pm »

Oh, you mean you didn't find Tanaka in the original game to be cute? You're weird. Smiley

Seriously, a lot of the fun in this game comes from the wacky juxtaposition of a species' culture with how humans happen to view that species' physiology. Shofixti are *super*-cute, because they're all tough and honorable and stuff while also happening to be little fuzzy kangaroo things.
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« Reply #47 on: October 09, 2004, 07:34:57 am »

Not really, the humorous juxtaposition with the Yehat and the Shofixti were that the Yehat were birds of prey that admired the Shofixti.

Thing is, Birds of prey often eat rats and the like Smiley

They were never "Cute". As I said thats what the Zoq-Fot are for.

For ugliness though, I think it's stiff competition between the Umgah (Har har har!) and the Ilwrath.
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« Reply #48 on: October 10, 2004, 10:25:24 pm »

Umm... they *were* cute. You seriously never reacted to the Tanaka comm screen with "Awww..."?

The trope of "aggressive, tough, bellicose little cute guy" is pretty old, and it's *especially* common in anime, which the whole Shofixti comm screen, music and voice acting were meant to evoke. The ZFP are *also* cute, but in a "we're helpless and stupid bickering little guys" kind of way, which is a very different kind of cute.

And the Yehat didn't "admire" the Shofixti, per se. They nurtured and cared for them like parents for children; the Yehat were definitely the superiors and the Shofixti inferiors (at least before the Yehat betrayal), so the whole birds of prey vs. little mammals thing actually made some sense. I never thought of it as being particularly ironic. I never thought much about the Yehat being supposed to be like Earth birds anyway -- the Pkunk were much more birdlike, while the Yehat looked like some kind of pterodactyl. The Shofixti weren't exactly supposed to be based on field mice, either, even if they're supposed to be smaller than humans -- they were carnivores and predators, after all.
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« Reply #49 on: October 11, 2004, 02:38:31 am »

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And the Yehat didn't "admire" the Shofixti, per se.

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The Yehat had such admiration for these feisty little warriors that they immediately adopted them and took responsibility for the Shofixti?s uplift, swearing that no peace-loving race would be allowed to dilute the Shofixti's noble warlike tendencies.

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« Reply #50 on: October 11, 2004, 06:42:26 am »

Touche. But it's still a condescending sort of admiration, no? They didn't look *up* to the Shofixti; they admired them for being so primitive yet embodying so many good Yehat values, and took it upon themselves to teach them and lead them.
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« Reply #51 on: October 11, 2004, 03:14:00 pm »

I haven't read anything in the manual or the game that would suggest any condescending attitude.

The fact that the Yehat admired the Shofixti doesn't mean they value every aspect of the race. I would guess it's just (part of) their culture that they admire.
It may be that in other aspects the Yehat look down on the Shofixti, but considering the choice of words ("foster-species", "adopted"), it looks more like a parental relation to me, with the Yehat stimulating the development of the Shofixti.

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« Reply #52 on: October 11, 2004, 08:51:26 pm »

The whole idea of "uplifting" and of one whole species becoming the "parent-species" of another "child-species" seems sort of condescending to me. Not in a truly negative way, just meaning that the Yehat consider themselves to have reached a superior level of culture and feel duty-bound to help the Shofixti reach it; the relationship is still one where the Yehat are in the superior position and the Shofixti in the inferior. (The person who brought up this point made it sound like the Yehat worshiped the Shofixti or thought of the Shofixti as *their* superiors.)

It is stated that their helping the Shofixti includes giving them a real cultural and social infrastructure, teaching them the doctrines of Yehat ancestor-worship, and so on besides just giving them technology.
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« Reply #53 on: October 12, 2004, 05:04:55 am »

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The whole idea of "uplifting" and of one whole species becoming the "parent-species" of another "child-species" seems sort of condescending to me.

If you call that condescending, you could call any parent-child or techer-pupil relationship condescending.
It's just a matter of definition then.
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« Reply #54 on: October 12, 2004, 07:16:42 am »

Yes, it is a matter of definition. The first poster said that it was funny that the Yehat admired the Shofixti because the Shofixti were smaller and weaker than they were; this is only ironic if the Yehat "admire" the Shofixti in terms of being frightened or awed by them, and seeing themselves as inferior. There's nothing ironic about it if it's admiration from superior to inferior (whether you want to use the word "condescending" with its negative connotations or not).
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« Reply #55 on: October 18, 2004, 06:07:33 am »

Some creatures from the game.





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« Reply #56 on: October 18, 2004, 06:27:14 am »

Wow, those look great! I especially like your rendering of the octopi-thingies. Do you plan on drawing ZEX's Beauty at some point?
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« Reply #57 on: October 18, 2004, 11:57:05 am »

Indeed the "Fungal Squid" is done well. You'll find somewhat detailed (read: none) information of them here.
Well, at least all the creatures are there.

Most interested I am of Yompin Yiminy and Penguin Cyclops. Especially the latter, since they are so valuable. Grin
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« Reply #58 on: October 19, 2004, 12:02:15 am »

I made my own creature ref sheet with the gfx from the game folder so I get all the frames. I think the carousel beast is my favourite.



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« Reply #59 on: October 20, 2004, 06:39:27 am »

Bahahahaha! That is so damn cool. Do you mind if I use your fine drawing of the beast as my avatar?
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