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The remixes in a music library
« on: November 10, 2004, 10:32:54 am »

Hello, I'm just wondering how do people manage the Precursors' remixes in a large music library (what comments do you assign)? The current vorbis-comments in the remix packages are incosistent between each other, so I'm currently putting them the way I described below (to better integrate with other oggs in library). Comments and suggestions welcome.

(Also trying to follow the guidelines here: http://www.gophernet.org/articles/vorbiscomment.html and here: http://reference.reactor-core.org/ogg-tagging.html )

Artist: the remixer (multiply ARTIST tags, if we have more than 1 precursors here)
Ensemble: "The Precursors Team"
Composer: the original track author, if we have a remix (e.g. composer="Dan Nicholson" artist="Jouni Airaksinen" for the druuge remix)
Version: either "UQM Original" or "UQM Remix"
Date: the remix package release date (should this instead be the date remix was made?)
Album: The Ur-Quan Masters Soundtrack [X]: [Subtitle], as seen on the graphical cover pics, e.g. "The Ur-Quan Masters Soundtrack II: Neutral Aliens, Don't Shoot!"
Track Number: the track number in the package as seen on the precursors' website
Title: theme name + the title (as seen on the precursors' website) separated by ":" for example - "Shipyard: Rough Repair" or "VUX: Ultra-Gross!"

I also preserve "Encoded-by" and "Comment" and other misc. tags untouched, if they're present in the track.

The Genre field is rather ambiguous, so I put multiply GENRE tags, including the genres, which I think the songs belong to + "GENRE=Soundtrack".

I also wonder, what to put into "copyright" and "license" fields, what's the license for the remixes??
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Re: The remixes in a music library
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2004, 01:03:23 pm »

Woah, that's a lot more detailed than my scheme. I set the artist value to "Precursors" to keep all my precursor tracks in one group on my iPod, since I usually sort by artist. I then put the artist name in the album field, so I can see who remixed it. I also edit the song titles on occasion to keep them consistent by placing the title of the original theme in front of the remix title, seperated by a dash. I also tend to remove the redundant [UQM remix] text.
For example:
Title: Starbase - Under A Red Sky
Artist: Precursors
Album: E. Gatzschmann & T.A. Fjellstad

For your purposes, I would set the song titles as they appear on the Precursors Website. This would include separating the original track name from the remix name with a hyphen instead of a colon, staying true to form. For the ensemble, I'd just put "Precursors" as opposed to "The Precursors Team". I think that the songs are compyrighted by their respective composers, and are to be distributed with the Ur-Quan Masterrs, but it would be best to ask TiLT or VOiD directly.
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Re: The remixes in a music library
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2004, 02:28:11 pm »

Wow! Someone spending a ridiculous amount of time on something only marginally useful! I'm all for that! Cheesy


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Date: the remix package release date (should this instead be the date remix was made?)

The release date is always the way to go. Nobody cares when Beatles wrote "A Day in the Life", it was *released* in 1967.


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I also wonder, what to put into "copyright" and "license" fields, what's the license for the remixes??
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I think that the songs are compyrighted by their respective composers, and are to be distributed with the Ur-Quan Masterrs, but it would be best to ask TiLT or VOiD directly.

I think the copyright resides with the individual remixer(s) on the remixes. They don't have to be distributed with UQM; on the Precursors home page you can download individual tracks without downloading the game.

I may have some details wrong, if that's the case I call upon some of the great old ones around here. Luki? Meepy? You know anything more about the copyright issues?



EDIT: Here's what the Wikipedia has to say:

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Under what license is the game released?

The code is released under the GNU General Public License]. The content (the graphics, sounds, and music) will likely be released under something similar, but exactly which one hasn't been decided yet. For now, the license says "The content may be copied freely as part of a distribution of The Ur-Quan Masters."
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Re: The remixes in a music library
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2004, 04:18:06 pm »

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For your purposes, I would set the song titles as they appear on the Precursors Website. This would include separating the original track name from the remix name with a hyphen instead of a colon, staying true to form.


I like the semicolon more (and it's the official sign for subtitles in Musicbrainz). For that purpose, vorbis suggests using "subtitle" tag, but it's support in players is poor and I always want something like "Property of the Crimson Corporation" displayed in a player (just gives me creeps). Smiley

I also think I'll include the precursors' comments to individual tracks in "comment" tags. Yep, I'm a metadata maniac. Smiley
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Re: The remixes in a music library
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2004, 01:36:07 am »

If you're hardcore enough, you will remove all the tags and remember artists, composers, song titles, all release dates by heart.
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Re: The remixes in a music library
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2004, 01:43:55 am »

I got all but the release dates and composer pronounciations down.
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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2004, 06:51:50 am »

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If you're hardcore enough, you will remove all the tags and remember artists, composers, song titles, all release dates by heart.

I remember most of that information, but having metadata really helps when you want to automatically build a playlist with an advanced query like [hypothetical]:
"all cover versions (performer != composer) published by Mute records from 1999 to 2001 excluding albums by Laibach, the result must be sorted by playback count, and 20 tops must be selected to fit on audio cd no more no less" phew! Smiley But the computer does not remember such things by heart... Smiley
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