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« on: December 17, 2004, 04:11:37 am »

does anyone know of a progect like this for the first one? I want to try it without buying a system.
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« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2004, 07:29:38 am »

You can find a downloadable version of SC I by looking on google, original software, but on my computer it was really choppy and hard to use. I don't remember if the original was, but...
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« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2004, 08:56:02 am »

they all seem to be gone.
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« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2004, 01:46:31 pm »

There are ROMs available of the genesis version which can be played with PC emulators, but as far as I know these are still privately liscensed. That would mean that downloading such a ROM would be considered illegal unless you already own a Star Control genesis cartridge.
(At least that's the way it works here in the US.)
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« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2004, 02:19:22 am »

Here's the DOS version. I found it very easily...

http://www.abandonia.com/game.php?ID=143&genre=strategy
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« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2004, 03:37:41 am »

thanks. Grin
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« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2004, 04:02:30 am »

umm, i know your trying to be a nice guy and all, but there shouldnt be any links to copyrighted material. dont want to offend the gods...Fred and Paul.

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« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2004, 09:49:15 am »

umm.... "shouldnt there be no"? anyway I get your point sorry.
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« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2004, 02:12:43 am »

It looks like a "serious" site, so i guess the game is no longer protected by copyright, or they were granted permission by the copyright holder...
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« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2004, 03:03:38 am »

it's abandonware.
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« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2004, 05:49:49 am »

It was abandonware when it was first released, wasn't it? My brother's friend installed it on our computer. Oh, wait...He put SC II on there as well, so he might have just been pirating it... :-/
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« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2004, 07:11:52 am »

So, yeah, I downloaded SC1 the other night. Been playing throug ha dos emulator. I have a question.

I haven't played SC1 before and I'm wondering, what's with the
ship movement? I mean, when your viewing the tactical screen and
the ship moves... I don't understand why I can move in a direction one time, but not another time. Is there a way to bring up a .... roadmap of the
area, so I can find the quickest was from point A to point B?
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« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2004, 10:49:18 pm »

The best advice I could give to someone just trying starcon for the first time would be this:

Setup the game so that you play using the "Psytron"; that lets the computer pick the strategy for you.  Then watch what it does, and fight when it gets you into one.  Wink

After a short time of watching it used, the starmap's use and function, as well as how the turns work, becomes quite clear.  And once you find yourself openly disagreeing with the psytron's decisions on your behalf, and can rationalize why, it's time to take off the training wheels, as it were, and go it alone.
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« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2004, 11:03:17 am »

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it's abandonware.

Abandonware is a nice concept, but unfortunately most software that people claim is "abandonware" is actually still protected by copyright. I guess it really depends on your definition of Abandonware, though.

At any rate, my guess is that either Atari or TFB now holds the rights to SC1. If TFB holds the rights to the code and content (I'm certain they don't own the name) they may choose to release them at a later date. If it's held by Atari, good luck.

I don't know what Fred and Paul would think of you downloading and playing SC1, but remember that piracy is still piracy, "abandonware" or otherwise. I admit that I enjoy playing so-called abandonware games, but I've done a little research into copyright law and learned that simply because the game was "abandoned" doesn't mean you're allowed to freely distribute it.

Of course, this may not apply in contries other than the US. I know very little about international copyright law.

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I haven't played SC1 before and I'm wondering, what's with the
ship movement? I mean, when your viewing the tactical screen and
the ship moves... I don't understand why I can move in a direction one time, but not another time.

When I first played SC1, I was having a problem figuring out the navigation too. I realized that I had been conceptualizing the starmap wrong- it is a rotating 3d map, and I looked at it as a crazily bouncing 2d map. Not sure if that's what your issue is, but that helped for me.
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« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2004, 08:13:05 pm »

Ahh. that might help. Yes, I thought it was a swining 2D map. I'll
go back and try again, slightly enlightened.
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