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« on: October 03, 2004, 10:59:03 pm »

I was listening to some Aphex Twin and noticed that the notes in 'Come to Daddy' are the same as the notes in 'Didn't you mean to ask for flowers?' Coincidence?

For anyone unfamiliar with Come to Daddy you can watch the music video on launch.

http://launch.yahoo.com/artist/videos.asp?artistID=1001123

The music and video are both creepy.
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« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2004, 04:45:19 am »

I'm guessing you're talking about chords here, not notes.

However, I did a quick (10 mins) analysis of the chords, and it appears that although they seem similar, they're not.

In Come to Daddy, there's a C-B-F chord structure running the whole song through. Whereas in DYMtAaF, there's instead a C-(B)-A chord structure all the way, while the bass sometimes (like in the opening) runs through a C-B-(A)-E motif.

I checked out the original mod as well, and it appears that there are only two chords in that one, B and G sharp, which, when transposed up a half note to C, the base chord of the two aforementioned songs, gives us a C-A chord structure.

Having said that, I agree with you in one thing: the chords in Come to Daddy and DYMtAaF DO sound similar, and although I'll admit I've never asked him, it's not altogether impossible that Riku was influenced by Aphex Twin in this instance.

Hope that clears things up.

Aphex Twin rocks, by the way. Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2004, 03:42:58 am »

To the ear DYMTAFF sounds like 5\4\3\1
and Come to Daddy sounds like 5\4\1.
So they should end on the same note. At leased they sound like they do. Untill now I didnt realize they were in the same key.
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« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2004, 05:57:30 pm »

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To the ear DYMTAFF sounds like 5\4\3\1
and Come to Daddy sounds like 5\4\1.
So they should end on the same note. At leased they sound like they do. Untill now I didnt realize they were in the same key.

Unless my ears are one backwards today (and yesterday), I'm willing to swear they don't end on the same note. CtD ends on a F, while DYMtAaF ends on an E. Hence, one half note difference. If you have an instrument handy, you could check it out. That's what I did. Smiley

EDIT: On the other hand, it could be that we're not actually referring to the same song. Richard D James (Aphex Twin) is notorious for making multiple remixes of his songs. For instance, I have a CtD EP which, amongst several other tracks, contains three very different mixes of the track. One of the mixes is not even recognisable as the same track...

EDIT2: I made two short clips of the tracks in question, just so we know we are talking about the same thing:
http://www.medievalfuture.com/void/temporary/Aphex_Twin_-_Come_to_Daddy_(clip).mp3
http://www.medievalfuture.com/void/temporary/Didnt_You_Mean_to_Ask_about_Flowers_(clip).mp3
Yes, I separated out everything but the bass from Riku's song, in order for it to be heard more clearly.
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« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2004, 01:56:46 am »

Are your right. To me it sounds like in context the f in come to daddy is supposed to be an e, but its very sharp. But mr cromatic tuner never lies.
Now if we could get aphex twin on these boards to tell us what he intended....
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« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2004, 05:16:01 am »

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Now if we could get aphex twin on these boards to tell us what he intended....

He probably tried to make a more intense Dnyarri track. Wink
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« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2004, 08:34:47 am »

Well the lyrics are surprisingly fitting.

'I want your soul, I will eat your soul. Come to daddy, come to daddy.'

Not really a dnyarri style of speach but the same message.
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« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2005, 07:36:29 pm »

Or perhaps "Windowlicker" could be used as the Umgah on-screen theme?
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