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TW-ligt plot
« on: May 04, 2005, 01:59:28 am »

If anyone is interested, you can download our plot in OUR DOWNLOAD PAGE
Or skip that and just download it from HERE

Anyway - unzip, open the powerpoint (.ppt) file and follow the links from there to the other files.
Try to read it in the right order (that of the Powerpoint file).

Warning - if and when the game will be ready this will be The Spoiler of all spoilers  

Also, I apoligize for any grammer, spelling and other mistakes that might be there.


I'll also use the opportunity to say that Yurand promised that a new release will be made in the next few days.


Oh, and tell us if you liked the plot

From the Ilwrath dialogs of TW-light:

Q: Why is your fleet in the stars of Draconis?
A: In Order To More Easily Hit The Thraddash With Pointy Things, Of Course
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« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2005, 04:34:02 am »

Is it possible to get this in a non MS format? I can't read powerpoint, and I'll probably be missing content from the word files. The html page is basically blank except for some hebrew(?!!).
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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2005, 04:44:28 am »

hehe.. yeah, that will be Hebrew. I just did 'save as HTML document' through PowerPoint in order to create this HTML file.
Although I do know that it works on computers without MS Office or Hebrew installed, and even through other explorers besides IE.
So I really have no idea why you're having a problem.

I don't have any completly not MS format.
However, according to Yurand OpenOffice can handle both .ppt and .doc files.
http://www.openoffice.org/

Maybe you can try and use it?
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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2005, 09:19:36 pm »

In any case, I opened the doc files with Appleworks...

First reaction: er... what?

To be more specific, none of the dangling plotlines from SC2 are even touched upon. The Ur-Quan have not merely been pushed back, but roundly and systemically defeated. The Dnyarri really is dead. The Orz never get all funky. We do not find the Taalo.

Ur-Quan should not be reduced to near-irrelevance.


Second reaction: Mrii IMPROBABILITY DRIVE? WTF? NO NO NO NO NO !!!!111one!

Third reaction: A Talana dating sim subgame, in which you start out before the hanky-panky stage?Huh?

Fourth reaction: Supox, Umgah, and Pkunk ships should also be immune to the AI takeover.

Fifth reaction: The Androsynth colony situation does not mesh well with the existing established relationship between the Arilou and the Humans and the Androsynth; it is implausible for them to have sent a ship all the way across both Ur-Quan territories to the gap between the arms; it violates their hostility to humans in general. And Fred and Paul said explicitly in a chat that there are no Androsynth anymore, period, anywhere. <- previous sentence is wrong, ignore

Sixth reaction: Oh, right, about the arms: In real galaxies, the bright arms are the locations of the very brightest stars, the O and B stars. The gaps between the arms have just as many stars in general, but no extremely bright O and B stars.

Seventh reaction: Recall that the computer which ran the factory was installed on the precursor ship, and later blown up with the Sa-Matra. Also, as much of the factory was loaded onto the Vindicator as possible, and from there loaded onto the Starbase at Earth (which is why you can't build stuff at Betelgeuse or Procyon). That is an Ex-factory. There is no Savior. Anyway, 'Mk 2' suggests it is the second, not the third.
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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2005, 10:51:18 pm »

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And Fred and Paul said explicitly in a chat that there are no Androsynth anymore, period, anywhere.

Is that so? Could you provide a quote? All I can find is
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: Were ALL the Androsynth destroyed when the Orz came?
Perceptive lad. This was a leading plot candidate for our theoretical sequel.

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« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2005, 01:24:28 am »

... Huh Hmm.. I guess they weren't so explicit as I thought. Where did you get YOUR quote?

From the Creators chat:
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<LordR-man> Fwiffo- What really happened to the Androsynth in sc2?
<Fwiffo> In regards to the Androsynth: They were snagged by the entity who/which projected its fingers into our dimension (which looked to us as the Orz.)


No quantifier on 'they', like 'those who were snagged' or 'some of them'... but if it had been, he might have said it that way anyway.

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<_Stilgar> <ORZ> Q:What was your ideas for the hypothetical Sequal?
<Fwiffo> We never had to settle on an idea, because we never got that close.  But we were thinking about those missing Androsynth.


Not the other, non-missing Androsynth. I guess that's pretty solid, but not by any stretch of imagination the certainty that my memory indicated.
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« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2005, 03:31:46 am »

See, I almost signed up to be a dialogue writer for this project, but -- no personal offense meant -- I reneged on that idea when I looked at the kinds of things you were discussing on the TW-Light plot boards. And frankly I'm thinking that I made the right choice.

I'll say more when I have time. I mean, props for trying, but... yeesh.
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« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2005, 03:34:32 am »

And... a dating sim? With things like buying anniversary presents? Isn't there, like, a war going on at this point? And the Captain is expected to take time off to go to the beach with his girlfriend? What the hell?
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« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2005, 03:47:44 am »

All right, that was unnecessarily harsh. There are some gems of ideas here. But there's a lot of dodgy stuff too, and what I find bothersome is that to such a large degree your plot very strongly avoids answering the really big questions TFB set up in SC2.
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« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2005, 03:49:35 am »

I feel that it's important to mention that hat you saw discussed on the forums was probably the PPI. This is not the plot but a plot made by general fans.
Read THIS plot to know what it's about.



About the dating sim and the rest of what Daeth_999 said - I'll reply lengthily later, including the dreaded dating sim.

Just for anyone else out there, read the plot before judging the game, and don't strike it out based on an optional minigame.
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« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2005, 05:52:28 am »

Just for the record, I base what I said on the plot files that I was reading, not on the PPI -- but I do remember a lot of this stuff coming *from* the PPI, like the Scavengers (Estion), the AI, the Mark II being discoverable at a later point in the game, and so on.
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« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2005, 07:49:11 am »

How are the Estion a derivation of the Scavengers?
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« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2005, 09:00:40 am »

You really should put the documents in HTML.  It would be pretty easy to run a text replace to put br's in them, or even use a visual HTML editor.  Most of the plot .docs crash Wordpad.

The race .docs work though, and although I didn't read the spoilers, I'm pleasantly surprised with the race ideas, especially the Mrii and Guph.  Your races are actually pretty good.  In fact for pure concept I think they'd fit right in with the SC1 and SC2 races both in quality and quirkiness.  Many of the race and plot ideas on the Timewarp boards are so incomprehensibly bad and inconsistent with SC2 that they overcame my desire to contribute ideas to a SC game and sent me running away.

Reading some of the other posts here, I get the idea that the main problem with your plot is that it has some conflicts with SC2, but I can't say much about the plot since I can't read most of it.  The Niko taking over the Mrmrnmhrm to get converts seems like a good idea.  Why are Chmmr ships attacking alliance ships?  What's going on with the Ur-Quan?  Those are 2 plot points that crashed Wordpad.
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« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2005, 09:08:09 am »

I'm planning to do a big copy edit on the plot files sometime soon... I can also transpose the documents to HTML in the process. Personally, I'm a format minimalist, so I'm all in favor of having our master documents be in HTML (or even txt)!
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« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2005, 12:17:20 pm »

Do you have info about the ships anywhere?  As far as I can tell only 6 of the races have ships in Timewarp (Mangler, Kterbi, Khar, Ger, Jyglar, Estion).

Is the Bipole going to be used for one of the races?  That's the coolest new ship in the game.
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