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Famous Ur-Quan Battles Volume IV
« on: May 06, 2005, 03:03:39 pm »

Since the Urquan Masters was released on the Internet, why not release the game that was Star Control 1? I am actually more of a fan of Star Control 1 than Star Control 2. Star control 1 turned my computer into an arcade machine, Star Control 2 basically was a preview of all future science fiction such as Babylon 5 (is it not also funny how current Battlestar Galactica resembles Wing Commander that was released at the same time?).

ZOT: "Silly Pik, when you finally speak, what do you do? You ask to play Star Control 1 on modern computers!"

FOT: "Didn't you know man, that the Star Control 1 PC source code was lost? Now that you are speaking, let us play Frungy!"

OK, so it was lost. But most of the game was combat which we can use the Star Control 2 melee code for. How hard would it be to program the 'strategy mode' for Star Control 1? You could even have fun and put in the more recent ships.

Reverse remake Star Control 1 (or should I say Famous Ur-Quan Battles Volume IV). Or better yet, add in your own personal touch and call it "Frungy", as how much more ironic could Frungy be if it were not a video game like Star Control 1?

Oh, I am a silly Pik! I have been silent holding my old Star Control 1 disks which are the BIG floppy discs. *cries with his big large eye* Remake Star Control 1 for modern systems or Pik will go silent again!!!

FOT: "See? Told you it was about Frungy."

ZOT: "Why can't you be the one who is silent?"
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Re: Famous Ur-Quan Battles Volume IV
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2005, 04:36:59 pm »

Check this thread.

http://uqm.stack.nl/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Gendiscuss;action=display;num=1114548964
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« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2005, 04:58:35 pm »

I did not say Tactical Campaign. I said Star Control 1. If it was just the Tactical Campaign, then bleh.

Star Control 1 played a bit differently then Star Control 2 did. Star Control 1 felt my computer had turned into an arcade game. Star Control 2 felt like a never ending mystery of a game.

Sorry, just tacking on the tactical campaign IS NOT Star Control 1. It would like playing Star Control 2 without any of the alien portraits or music. The plot and gameplay may still be there, but the soul is gone.
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« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2005, 07:19:24 pm »

I'm thinking that the tactical campaign and your 'strategy mode' are the same thing.  If not, please explain this strategy mode.  Please note that the thread that GeomanNL referred to does stray from the original topic for a bit which is probably why you're thinking that they're different.
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« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2005, 07:30:40 pm »

I think he misses the Alliance vs. Hierarchy battles more than something else.

edit: perhaps try playing timewarp?
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« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2005, 11:23:00 pm »

You know, it's not that hard to play SC1 on a modern computer using an emulator like DOSBox. I've been doing it for a couple weeks now, and it is indeed as fun as I remember it being. If you don't have the original disks, there are abandonware sites out there that have SC1, and I'm sure none of us will censure you too terribly for using them.
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« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2005, 02:38:14 am »

I have the original discs. They are not your smaller floppy discs but the bigger ones, ones that will not fit into any computer older than fifteen years.

If Star Control 2 can be ported to modern operating systems, why not Star Control 1? Yes, the big obstacle is the source code being lost. However, it can be reverse made using Star Control 2's basic code.

Star Control 1 > Star Control 2

Star Control 1 = More multiplayer oriented

Star Control 2 = More single player oriented

Remember guys, most of the backstory, the star control atmosphere, and the combat system were all pioneered with Star Control 1. Star Control 2 just added a few more ships and a single player adventure game mode on top of that. I appreciate Star Control 2's adventure game but as a sequel to Star Control 1, well the game sucked. It was like waiting for the sequel to a game like Warcraft only for it to end up like Monkey Island. A great game but not a loyal sequel.
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« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2005, 02:41:33 am »

Dude. This is EXACTLY what we are attempting to get going in the other active thread on this subject. The strategic campaign (some people called it the tactical campaign).
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« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2005, 06:51:34 am »

he means without any sc2 ships, also SC1 is still copywrighted so it's would be ilegal.
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Re: Famous Ur-Quan Battles Volume IV
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2005, 10:03:19 am »

I can't imagine that it would be hard to restrict SC2 ships from such a design.  And Death_999 is right, this _is_ being discussed in another thread.  Quibbles about accurate definitions of "tactical" and "strategic" don't change this.
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« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2005, 10:06:47 am »

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I can't imagine that it would be hard to restrict SC2 ships from such a design.  And Death_999 is right, this _is_ being discussed in another thread.  Quibbles about accurate definitions of "tactical" and "strategic" don't change this.

errrg what I'm saying is that the other one wants to turn sc2 into a tactical game while this one wants an exact port of sc1.
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« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2005, 11:02:18 pm »

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Star Control 1 > Star Control 2

Star Control 2 just added a few more ships and a single player adventure game mode on top of that. I appreciate Star Control 2's adventure game but as a sequel to Star Control 1, well the game sucked. It was like waiting for the sequel to a game like Warcraft only for it to end up like Monkey Island.

Does anyone else feel compelled to try and punch this guy through their computer like I do? Star Control 1 was a cute spin-off of Archon. THAT'S IT. It was not all that significant on its own, and I think we may have found the only person on the planet who feels otherwise.

And you need to change your name. The Zoq-Fot-Pik weren't even in Star Control 1! Taking your inept Warcraft analogy, it would be like naming yourself "Night Elf" or "Illidan" and then posting how Warcraft 3 was a crappy disappointment.
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Re: Famous Ur-Quan Battles Volume IV
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2005, 11:35:56 pm »

[q] Does anyone else feel compelled to try and punch this guy through their computer like I do? Star Control 1 was a cute spin-off of Archon. THAT'S IT. It was not all that significant on its own, and I think we may have found the only person on the planet who feels otherwise. [/q]

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However, SC1 was still pretty great... It's AI wasn't top-notch, but playing against another human player was pretty decent..
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« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2005, 06:57:28 am »

I really, really don't see why you can't just download SC1 from an abandonware site and play it on an emulator. It's not that hard. You can even use a Genesis emulator to play the Genesis version, which has extra features. A quick Google search will net you a site with the files, or I'll even e-mail you the name of the site I got mine from if you really want.
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« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2005, 09:46:36 am »

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I really, really don't see why you can't just download SC1 from an abandonware site and play it on an emulator. It's not that hard. You can even use a Genesis emulator to play the Genesis version, which has extra features. A quick Google search will net you a site with the files, or I'll even e-mail you the name of the site I got mine from if you really want.

perhaps he doesn't want to break the law.
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