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Re: Episode 3
« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2005, 05:01:29 am »

BTW, I really liked the fact that just before the big fight between Palpatine and Yoda start they make a scene which is remarkably similar to the end of the battle scene from Transfoerms the movie.

In Transformers:
Prime is crouching on the ground, badly hurt. Megatron walks to him with a pistol trained on him while saying:
"I could've waited an eternity for this, it's over Prime!"

Prime shouts "Never!" and hit Megatron with all his might, throwing him off the floor.

In Episode III:

Yoda is crouching on the floor after being struck by Palpatine's lightning. Palpatine walks to him while saying something like "Finally this moment has arrived, you're all doomed" or something like that (I don't remember his exact words).
Then Yoda say that he's overconfident (or something like that) and throw Palpatine across the room using the Force.


Another small similarity is that Megatron's motto is supposed to be "Peace through tyranny" and Palpatine said something about ruling the galaxy and bringing peace through his rule.

But it's probably just me who enjoyed it, or even noticed Wink
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« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2005, 09:16:56 pm »

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one sentence from Palpatine that there might be a way to repress Padme's death by working together, he decides to betray the Jedi and kill all the padawan children, turn to the DS, and be enslaved...  


Not really, he already killed an unarmed enemy just because Palpatine ordered it. He also killed a lot of man, women and children in ep. 2 as well, because he loved his mother. He was already well on his way to the dark side.

The thing I don't get though is, that he does everything for his love for Padme, but in the end he kills her. I suppose it's done intentionally in the movie, but it doesn't make sense to me.

Say, has anyone noticed the Fomula 1 race? One of the cars had "Powered by the Dark Side" on the sides Smiley
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« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2005, 09:23:25 pm »

He doesn't kill her directly, she is just knocked out. She dies because of his turning to the dark side. Sidious leads him to believe that he killed her directly, so that all he will have left is pain (nothing to bring him back towards good).
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« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2005, 09:27:04 pm »

Yeah... that's right. But still. I suppose his lust for power was more powerful than his love.
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« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2005, 10:21:02 pm »

Everything he does to avoid one tragedy turns into another. In the end, his rage is the only thing that can stay the tremendous pain that has built up inside of and around himself.

His lust for power was always an attempt to stop the losses he suffers, to protect those that he loves. But in the end, he still loses everything, and power becomes the one thing he has left.
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« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2005, 01:59:52 am »

guess what: he was wrong.
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« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2005, 05:01:11 am »

"Just wanted to say that all Jedi-knights are complete idiots"

I find your lack of faith disturbing. (Crunch)


"I enjoyed the rebellion against the jedi belief called "just think out on others"

Why, you do that everyday.  Tongue


"If his belief was indeed superior to the Jedi belief, he should have converted those children into his own belief instead."

Sometimes people do not wish to be converted. You might have noticed this when preaching on this forum.


"But if you are denying your self-love, then how can you possibly love the God that created you?"

You don't. I hate myself and I don't think any "God" really exists, at least not in the usual sense. There are just some many definitions of a god. The Greek gods didn't create much and they could be damaged. The Norse gods were supposed to be defeated in the end (no offense to anybody).


"You need to understand the dark side as well, because only then can you get a true understanding of everything."

Well, emotions do seem to be pretty well connected. If somebody tried to harm someone you had compassion for, you might suddenly experience an emotion of a different kind (which this series captures very well, I might add).
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« Reply #22 on: June 04, 2005, 02:07:05 am »

...Anyway, I saw Episode III a week ago.  I had seen the other two as well.

Revenge of the Sith was definitely better than the first two.  The thing is, the movie's probably most enjoyable if you don't take it seriously.  I guess you could treat it as a roller coaster ride.

So yeah, the special effects are awesome.  I must admit that I get a little tired when people complain about the quantity of effects.  I mean, it's a space movie!  If you have a lower tech way of depicting a high tech galactic empire I'd like to hear it.

Oh, and for those who hate Jar Jar: you might be pleased that he has no speaking part in the movie.

And in response to what monkydang said a while ago about how we would've liked the prequel movies better in the 70s; I can see a point in that.  I mean, it could be argued that Lucas used muppets and cardboard ships as much as he's using computer graphics now.  I wonder what life would be like if the Star Wars movies were made and released in chronological order?  Would Jar Jar have become a beloved pop figure, while Chewbacca became the annoying freak? Huh

P.S. As far as special effects laden epic trilogies go, I thought Lord of the Rings was better anyway. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #23 on: June 04, 2005, 04:54:07 am »

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Revenge of the Sith was definitely better than the first two.  The thing is, the movie's probably most enjoyable if you don't take it seriously.  I guess you could treat it as a roller coaster ride.


The problem is that the movie takes itself too seriously.  You'll notice that in the original trilogy Han, C3PO, and R2D2 did a heck of alot to lighten the mood.  What few attempts at humor this movie made were not very good, and they were certainly few and far between.  Also the actors' perfomances lend themselves to the ridiculously serious tone of the movie.  I think this is largely the directors fault--most of these actors are well established and capable in other roles.

...and it is pretty hard to call this a 'roller coaster ride' when you've already seen all the FX sequences in the trailer for the damn movie;)  There wasn't that much action in this movie, and what action we did see is done far better in other movies.

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So yeah, the special effects are awesome.  I must admit that I get a little tired when people complain about the quantity of effects.  I mean, it's a space movie!


uuuhh...no they weren't.  It isn't just 'quantity' that people complain about, it is how 'busy' some scenes become--that is an issue of direction, not FX quantity.

And also there are sequences that would have been better without and beg the question why were they used there to begin with.  Two examples are Dooku leaping over the railing on the observation deck and the background clone troopers while Obi-Wan was planning his visit to Utapou (sp?).  They used CG stand-ins unecessarily and didn't even pull them off very well.  They were clearly CG characters instead of actors and didn't 'look right' at all.

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If you have a lower tech way of depicting a high tech galactic empire I'd like to hear it.


Try the pre-Special Edition version of the classic Star Wars trilogy...

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And in response to what monkydang said a while ago about how we would've liked the prequel movies better in the 70s; I can see a point in that.  I mean, it could be argued that Lucas used muppets and cardboard ships as much as he's using computer graphics now.  I wonder what life would be like if the Star Wars movies were made and released in chronological order?  Would Jar Jar have become a beloved pop figure, while Chewbacca became the annoying freak? Huh


NO.  The classic trilogy has much superior writing and acting.  They are rightfully classic movies that appeal to a much broader audience than the shallow prequel nonsense.
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