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Re: The European Union
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2005, 08:40:23 am »

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EDIT: Um, looks like you thought I meant GB, Great Britain, while what I did mean was G8. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G8

You're right; I misread the 8 as a B.  Substantailly more debt nullified, but still the same argument from me.
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« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2005, 11:06:58 pm »

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What does it matter anyhow? Doomsday is coming soon, and all your corruption will be dissolved.

I know this very well, mostly because I am not a prophet, but the person responsible for cutting your lifeline.



Then what SHOULD we be doing? Please answer in a different thread, entitled, "What you should be doing, since Doomsday is coming soon."
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« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2005, 01:05:41 am »

No, it's more like this:

"Wipe them out. . .all of them."


I believe in linear consciousness. Do you think you can kill me, Zan? You haven't been too successful in the past.

Plus, I think you admitted that humans have linear consciousness and therefore you believe it exists too. Kill yourself.
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« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2005, 02:45:06 am »

about the future of energy: It looks like we CAN make energy with fusion, which would bring us cheap energy for all eternity. I'm not too worried about that.
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« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2005, 05:54:16 am »

"Of course I can kill you."

Then do it. Now.


"about the future of energy: It looks like we CAN make energy with fusion,"

Has there been a recent scientific break in this area? If so, do tell. Energy sources/mediums make up the most important area of scientific research, that is, the one with the widest applications.
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« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2005, 08:23:09 am »

I was actually being serious about the energy source thing. A more powerful, smaller power plant could make for some very interesting things. Energy weapons, space ships, etc. I would be interested to know about any break-throughs in the realm of cold fusion.


I don't think I'm dead yet, Zan. Is that all you've got? Come on, kill me. Maybe you're not so powerful.  Perhaps you're just a kid with a keyboard after all.
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« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2005, 09:02:49 pm »

We don't seem to be making any progress on cold fusion, but our hot fusion is progressing. If slowly.
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« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2005, 07:00:47 am »

I'm truly, utterly at loss as to how these posts even remotely fit under the headline "The European Union".

Seriously. If you stray too much off topic, start a new thread. Your opponent in the discussion will read that as well, have no doubt. This is getting really annoying.
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« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2005, 08:21:52 am »

Sorry, back on topic.

So I don't think the EU will become much more than an economic and somewhat weak diplomatic entity. I don't think europe any longer has the attitude necessary for superpowerdom. Relatively speaking, its people no longer have the drive and willingness to make some sacrifices, just as the people of the US no longer have these.

It may be better this way too. From a freedom standpoint, an individual has more power when he is a member of a smaller group. 1 tribesman of an 800 person tribe is much more important to his people, than 1 of 1,200,000,000 chinese citizens. If you think this is cold, think about it some more. If someone dies in the house next to you or in your apartment complex, isn't there a much better chance that you'll hear about it than if one of your countrymen dies someplace? The smaller the whole, the larger a part of it you are. Divided into smaller groups, each one of you has more of an ability to customize your goverment in a way that can meet your specific needs. You don't need to worry as much about pork, in fighting, or unreasonable self serving voting blocks and lobbies. The smaller and less powerful the nation, the easier it is for its people to manage it and protect their rights. The more powerful the nation, the greater the corruption.
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« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2005, 06:03:28 am »

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I was actually being serious about the energy source thing. A more powerful, smaller power plant could make for some very interesting things. Energy weapons, space ships, etc. I would be interested to know about any break-throughs in the realm of cold fusion.

Not exactly Cold Fusion energy production, but here are 3 slashdot articles on a recent experiment that fuses deuterium at close to room temperature with the intent of producing a particle stream:
http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/04/27/1930218&tid=232&tid=126&tid=14
http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/04/28/1518226&tid=232&tid=14
http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/07/1635251&tid=126&tid=14
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« Reply #25 on: June 23, 2005, 03:53:07 pm »

I have firm faith that big empires will collapse eventually. And smaller countries go through changes. Most Chinese dynasties lasted for about 300 years, and Rome held on for close to a millennia (and much longer if you take the Byzantium side into account). The Soviet Union didn't even make a century. The United States is a little under 250 years old and the EU a few decades if you count from the economical organizations it is based on.
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« Reply #26 on: June 23, 2005, 09:15:19 pm »

The technological and social changes of the last 100 years have never occurred before. Examples: complete dependency of one country on the other for energy, the sheer number of people on earth, extreme urbanization, fast global communication, globalizing economies (almost all the stuff in my house is imported from abroad, for example). The world is a *lot* smaller than it used to be, even if many people don't realize this. Therefore, you can't simply assume the past will repeat itself. Oops, I forgot global terror. So, a state of complete "independence" is gone.
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