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I just had one of those... you know... brain times
« on: July 05, 2005, 11:00:21 am »

Since the Precursors are redoing the SC2 music, I had a thought: If I was willing to do new voiceovers for UQM, would you guys be behind it? I may have to recruit some help, but I think it would be a fairly simple procedure and wouldn't take long. What do you guys think?
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« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2005, 12:43:43 pm »

Hmm. It sounds nice in theory, but I have a few questions.
1. What would your objective be in this endeavour? To make better-sounding or higher-fidelity recordings than those present in the 3DO? To make new recordings that include missing information, like the mycon homeworld or the metachron?

2. Are you aware of the amount of work it would take to redo all the voices in UQM? It's probably more than you think. I'm not sure of the exact duration, but there are hours upon hours of edited, processed recordings. Whatever the duration of the 3DO voices, you'll probably wind up recording at least double the amount due to bad takes and such. The sheer amount of voicing that needs to be done for even one race is probably enough to put off most casual volunteers.
And once you have all the sound, you have to edit, process, and master it so that it sounds convincingly alien.

I'm not saying that you shouldn't attempt it. If you think you can do it, go for it, but make sure you know what such an undertaking would entail.

EDIT: Found an old, similar thread while looking for duration information. Look at what 0xDEC0DE says on the first page, he's right on the ball.
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Re: I just had one of those... you know... brain t
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2005, 09:46:25 pm »

Yeah, I'd insert missing stuff like the MetaChron, or maybe change the Talking Pet dialogue to say Glilandy instead of Benteflork and for Commander Hayes to get the name of the Yehat royal family right (though missing stuff would have to be reprogrammed). I also want it to be better sounding. Higher fidelity, obviously, since the 3DO stuff was recorded a WHILE ago... but there are also some voiceovers for some races that sound... unconvincing.

As for the duration, I know I'm gonna have to do some post-processing stuff on the races with weird voices (Spathi, Ur-Quan, Chmrr, and, God help me, the Syreen), but I don't plan on going halfway and then dropping it. I may release it on a per-race basis.

Here's a demonstration (I advise you to play the Precursors' Talking Pet music in the background to make this sound authentic): http://www.freewebs.com/aquilaeancodex/talkp013.ogg

Any other requests before I commit?
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Re: I just had one of those... you know... brain t
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2005, 11:05:10 pm »

Uuuhhm.. A new microphone?

Unless my XMplay was b0rking it.... Though I doubt it.
(It.. well... I couldn't hear a damn thing because of the noise..)
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Re: I just had one of those... you know... brain t
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2005, 12:09:49 am »

Oh, JESUS! I just listened to the .ogg and it is completely horrifying! I don't know how or why, buy my .ogg converter completely trashed my crystal-clear .wav file. Let me just post the .wav (it's only slightly bigger) and I'll repost the link. Sorry about that.

I think my ears are bleeding.

Okay, here: http://www.freewebs.com/aquilaeancodex/talkp013.wav
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« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2005, 03:43:38 am »

I'm on 56k at the moment so I'll wait till later to download it, but in the meantime I suggest you check out audacity. It's a free multitrack audio editor with a decent ogg export function (and a handful of VST effects).
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« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2005, 03:55:40 am »

I love it. This is a good version of the Talking Pet dialogue, in my opinion. Could perhaps use a few effects, but if you want to be faithful to the 3D0, this is good enough. You have my full support for a new version of the entire game's dialogue, and such a thing would of course FORCE me to play the game from start to finish again. Wink

Now just promise me you'll COMPLETELY change the Orz dialogue. I just can't stand talking to them as they are.
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Re: I just had one of those... you know... brain t
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2005, 04:02:31 am »

And I'm sure you could do a lot of nice effects if you EQ it in cool ways. Nothing like EQ to change the sound completely.
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« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2005, 04:21:48 am »

The wav just finished downloading...
Nice! Grin

That's very good for a proof-of-concept. I'd say it was on par with Paul Reiche's rendition in terms of delivery. You've nearly won me over. Smiley

For the final version, you'll need to work on enunciation just a little bit... most of it was nice and clear, but there were a few places where you slurred a little. That's why I said you'd be taking at least twice as much audio as you will wind up using... it's hard to get that elusive perfect take. Of course, if you're good enough with postproduction you can sometimes make up for it.

If you honestly understand how much work this will take, I say go for it. I'd even be up for doing some voice acting myself if I can think of a race my voice could work for (and you wind up going through with this)... I'm thinking that I might be able to do a halfway decent utwig. Less whiny, hopefully.

We'll see how it pans out.
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« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2005, 05:03:47 am »

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Now just promise me you'll COMPLETELY change the Orz dialogue. I just can't stand talking to them as they are.

I have heard a LOT of complaints about the Orz. If I were to change them, what would you have me do? Is it something about their voice, or is it the actual words they say?

As for the rest of you, I'm glad my efforts are getting supported. If I need help with anything (and here I am thinking of the Spathi dialogue), I may host auditions.
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« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2005, 05:33:08 am »

Do you mean that you intend to do the majority of the voices yourself?

Hmm... I can't remember hearing anything that was voice-acted by one person. Just how flexible is your voice (and your voice acting abilities)?

By the way, I tried doing both the utwig and the spathi, and I was a bit dissapointed with what I was able to muster. Then I tried the slylandro...  now them, I think I could pull off. And I'm talking about the excitable gas bags, not the robotic probes.  Wink

I guess if you want to do most of it yourself, it won't be neccessary. Still, if you're interested, I can send a sample to you. Of the one take I actually like, I produced two versions (one unprocessed, and one with a GVerb filter.)
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Re: I just had one of those... you know... brain t
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2005, 06:07:16 am »

The Orz as they are just sound like a really annoying woman. I'd want to make them creepy instead. While I haven't heard them, people say that the voiceovers for the Orz in SC3 are pretty good and creepy, with a deep computer voice stepping in for words that are impossible to translate. I'm not sure if that's the right direction to go though.

A deep voice might be nice, something that sounds like it's spoken through water, yet remains audible. I dunno, I'm just rambling here... Smiley
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Re: I just had one of those... you know... brain t
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2005, 06:10:45 am »

Hmm I tried the Shofixti for a 3d movie I was making, jesus spent like a couple hours and still got crap Sad

And I was confused when the computer talks about the language anomolies it sounds REALLY weird...
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« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2005, 03:09:50 pm »

*listens*

Whoa, that's great stuff indeed.. Much better than the noisy .ogg! Tongue

Well, go for it! I say.. Unfortunately, I can't help you with the voice stuff.. Eerie Dutch accent and all... Tongue
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Re: I just had one of those... you know... brain t
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2005, 07:44:49 pm »

Pretty good.. I haven't heard the original Talking Pet dubbing yet, but this one was pretty good, and better than some of my least favourite dubs that I've yet encountered.

I second that Orz are not too well done in the 3DO version. One reason is - along with not really being scary enough -, that like few other dubs, the dialogue is spoken quite slowwwly. Well, one reason for "slow" speech is that it makes it much easier to understand. Although your Talking Pet dub was quite fast and a speed I'd prefer, I couldn't make out everything that was said (English is not my first language though).
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