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Which alien do you think just stands above all the rest?
| Arilou |
| Chmmr |
| Druuge |
| Earthling (hunam) |
| Ilwrath |
| Melnorme |
| Mycon |
| Orz |
| Pkunk |
| Shofixti |
| Slylandro |
| Slylandro (probe) |
| Spathi |
| Supox |
| Syreen |
| (Talking Pet) |
| Thraddash |
| Umgah |
| Ur-Quan Kohr-Ah |
| Ur-Quan Kzer-Za |
| Utwig |
| Vux |
| Yehat |
| Zoq Fot Pik |
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Topic: Which alien stands above all the rest? (Read 37854 times)
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nathanael
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Well i try not to be pridefull, so instead of just shutting up.
I admit defeat u guys are right,and i am wrong. 
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Krulle
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*Hurghi*! Krulle is *spitting* again!
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They [the Kzer-Za] still, however, believe that lesser forms of life are firmly lesser, and that *no lesser life form may kill an Ur-Quan*. This is of deep, paramount importance, akin to some cultures' insistence that no commoner may harm a noble. The Kzer-Za and Kohr-Ah may compete with each other, but if a lesser race were ever allowed to harm an Ur-Quan that would turn their whole value system upside-down.
It makes perfect sense, if you stop thinking from a Thrall-centered point of view. From an Ur-Quan centered point of view, we're like pets, or livestock -- they'll fight other people for the right of people to keep livestock, but they *will not* allow the livestock to harm people. They'll protect the livestock from all manner of natural disasters, but if the livestock should pass into the possession of people who aim to destroy them (as happens if they lose the Doctrinal War) then they will not lift one finger to stop them, because destroying an animal that *belongs to you* is the right of a person.
Nice Arguments. Thanks Art!
I didn't think of this point of view, but it seems to come (very, very, very) close to what seems to be the thinking of the Kzer-Za.
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alatari
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If I understand the poll correctly it is the alien whose personality was best developed, right?
This is a thoroughly enjoyable game even after 11 years past it's first release. The alien dialogue was all well done and it would be best if an animated movie was created on this 2nd Doctrinal war concept.
My favorite is.. well it's such a hard choice. The Orz . I found myself actually understanding them eventually. They were so... ALIEN. So many of the other races were representative from other human societies.
The Spathi, Umgah then the talking pet were my next favorites. They were all so well written and fun to interect with. The Ur-Quan tales of woe and bigotry were nothing new. They sounded so very typical of any ancient or modern myths from various human cultures. The excruciators were used in many scifi plots I've read growing up.
As for the arguments over the UrQuan doctrines and the plots...
Psionics is nothing more than 'magic' and shouldn't even be included in science fiction...
Slave shields are physically impossible, the energy requirements to encase an entire planet with a shield impentrable by energy or physical matter is so great that there would be no way to power it short of taking all of the energy provided by the local sun and using it to supply the shield. Or by blocking all but the visible range of light input from the planet would create such havoc as to destroy the underlying ecosystem by denying the planet so much energy from solar rays (very high energy particles) and the sub-infrared that the planet freezes over...
Also, the energy would have to be provided from outside the shield and with ingenuity any race would be able to figure out a way to interrupt the power supply from the spacestation...
Oh and Rome lasted much longer than any other Western power...
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Art
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As for the arguments over the UrQuan doctrines and the plots...
Psionics is nothing more than 'magic' and shouldn't even be included in science fiction...
So? Much -- probably *most* -- of what gets labeled as science fiction isn't "hard" science fiction that firmly bases itself on extrapolation from scientific principles. Certainly not what the term "science fiction" was coined for, the pulp Golden Age stories of the 30s and 40s.
Science fiction isn't a class of possibility -- space opera-style bug-eyed monsters and blaster pistols and hyperdrive aren't any more plausible than dragons and flaming swords and magic wardrobes leading to another land. They just have a "science-y", technological, metallic feel to them.
SC2, with its psionics, its energy-beings, its dimensional warps, its ascension of beings to higher states through spiritual advancement -- it's firmly in the category of "science fantasy" a la Star Wars and the Force or Star Trek and its own brand of mysticism. And that's a fine genre to be in.
Slave shields are physically impossible, the energy requirements to encase an entire planet with a shield impentrable by energy or physical matter is so great that there would be no way to power it short of taking all of the energy provided by the local sun and using it to supply the shield. Or by blocking all but the visible range of light input from the planet would create such havoc as to destroy the underlying ecosystem by denying the planet so much energy from solar rays (very high energy particles) and the sub-infrared that the planet freezes over...
You know what's also impossible? Hyperdrive. The whole concept of practical interstellar travel and an interstellar civilization and near-instantaneous faster-than-light communication.
Slave shields are comparatively okay. They don't explicitly rely on a false or nonexistent scientific principle -- they're just from a society so much more technologically advanced than ours that we couldn't hope to understand how they work. Which I find believable enough for the purposes of a silly computer game. I would find it more implausible if we ran into a super-advanced race and they *didn't* have technologies that, at first glance, violated our laws of physics. (Think about how a modern human's house would affect a man from the Middle Ages who thought he understood how natural law worked.)
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Ethan d'Arcy
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It makes perfect sense, if you stop thinking from a Thrall-centered point of view. From an Ur-Quan centered point of view, we're like pets, or livestock -- they'll fight other people for the right of people to keep livestock, but they *will not* allow the livestock to harm people. They'll protect the livestock from all manner of natural disasters, but if the livestock should pass into the possession of people who aim to destroy them (as happens if they lose the Doctrinal War) then they will not lift one finger to stop them, because destroying an animal that *belongs to you* is the right of a person.
you sound like a pinko vegetarian  Anyways I am surprised at you, clever children. The alien race that stands above all others is clearly the Chmmr... that scarcely-known synergistic multiplication of the Chmmr and Mrmnhrmnhpthhmhmm cultures. The biotechnical blending of hyperwave and Standard Model mechanics. Chmmr, we hardly knew thee. Thou were a specie of infinite obscurity (even after we talked to you a while & flew your Cadillac of a ship). |
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edgewood
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Sorry for misusing the quote function.
How much energy does a slave shield require?
If I am doing this right: E=mc^2, with all in your standard metric units. So, if you were an ancient & extra-smart specie, and you could convert matter to energy with an efficiency of 15%,
1 kilogram of mass could be converted to 13 500 000 000 000 kiloJoules of energy, which should be enough to block some signals & projectiles & fusion blasts & such. Put some kind of force on them that sends them away. It seems to be within the reaches of speculation, anyways.
The Ur-Quan ought to use that mass-to-energy power plant on their ships, but maybe it takes a big installation to perform the feat (thus only on planets).
What is the power output of a sun, anyways?!
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Ed D
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My vote's for the Mycon. They have the best zinger in the game (in response to 'I'd like to fry you up in butter' )
"We are one with our parents parents parents parents."
In OTW you ate his parents and now he's going to avenge them!
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Cpt. Dinkleberg
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Black Spathi? Or Spathi?
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I choose the Chmmr, the Chmmr can kick some real badasses, with 1 Chmmr Avatar I could take out a Kohr-Ah and a Kzer-Za. Of course, best conversation is still the Spathi, worst conversation is the Slylandro. No matter what I say I'll eventually destroy them, "PRIORITY OVERIDE. NEW BEHAVIOUR DICTATED. MUST BREAK TARGET INTO COMPONENT MATERIALS" I should be saying that...
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Elerium
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Orz.. cannon weilding bad guys with space marines.. toasts heavy craft anyday. Probably one of the only ships to kill a Jugger on 1 on 1 combat.
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I traveled to the end of the universe, facing innumerable dangers, fighting against the mighty invincible Ur-Quan Masters themselves. All for a stupid Hyperwave broadcaster and now you tell me I could have used my trusty flashlight to talk to those damn crystal computers?! 
AARGH!!! Forget about saving the universe, I'm going to stock up on fuel and watch as the Khor-Ah turn everybody in nicely cut fried steaks. 
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Deep Jiffa Owns j00!