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Stoma
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Vela?
« on: December 13, 2002, 03:23:08 am » |
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Does anyone know if going to Vela does anything? I've been there, but it's just surrounded in a slave shield and can't talk to anyone on the planet... Does caster work? If my memory serves (from playing the original SC2 which was a LONG time ago), it didn't work then either... Or is there a way to uplift their slave shield?
Just for my sake, please don't tell me what happens, just how to do it... ;)
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Matt
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Re: Vela?
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2002, 05:08:33 am » |
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Nope...
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Nic.
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Re: Vela?
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2002, 12:34:35 pm » |
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I wouldn't think that using the 'caster would work -- the Ur-Quan (according to the storyt) destroy any/all advanced tech before putting races under the shield, and I'd think that would surely include hyperwave 'casters.
The only reason you're supposed to be able to talk to the Chenjesu through their slave shield is that they apparently can send/receive hyperwave transmissions naturally -- no tech, nothing for the Ur-Quan to blow up.
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Chenjesu
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2002, 04:02:53 pm » |
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But the Chenjesu preferred travelling for the bringing of messages. Hyperwave transmissions could always be intercepted.
But that brings me to another point. (See new thread about Chenjesu...)
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Re: Vela?
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2003, 07:03:02 am » |
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Does anyone know if going to Vela does anything? I've been there, but it's just surrounded in a slave shield and can't talk to anyone on the planet...
Well, you get to be yelled at by an Ur-Quan!
(not to mention, if you win, you get yourself a nice bundle of RU). Other than that though, I figure you'd want to go to Vela only because you're also harvesting a supergiant(yay!) white(double yay!) star. Given that minerals are superplentiful at white stars or at supergiants, Zeeman certainly fits those descriptions.
What I don't get is how the whole story works.
The Tobermoon arrives at Vela, with a crew compliment of 18, right? Then dumps off some crew, returns to Earth to carry scientists to Vela again. So you imagine that at most, you have 17 passengers traveling with Burton to Vela. That's 35 total on Vela, minus the dozen colonists that are stated to die over the years. Total: 23. Then the next twenty years are marked by the births of 40 colonists. Total: 63. Then they send up the Tobermoon to return to Earth. "All of the crewmembers are gone" comes the report, so you assume at minimum, they sent 1 additional member with the captain. Total on Vela: 61. Then Burton crews the Tobermoon and Zelnick fully crew the Precursor ship. Total on Vela: -7. Burton is killed, so I presume they picked up a new captain for the Tobermoon. Total on Vela: -8.
They also said in the intro, "When the vessel was completed, some of us could go home". So obviously some of the colonists had to stay on Vela. Even if none stayed despite what the intro says, I have no idea why in god's name the Kzer-Za elected to slave shield the planet. (maybe it was more economical than to waste time and resources to excavating the Precursor site in the midst of a Doctrinal War?)
I suppose you could argue, 'maybe the tobermoon made two return trips to Vela' or 'maybe the tobermoon had a mini crew boat full of scientists that they brought with them
on their return to Vela' which are both feasible. And probable. (I just like pointing out possible plot holes, I suppose.)
Or even: "The Earthling cruiser's efficiency in combat is horrifically impaired if extra crewmembers are housed within, but it is possible to house twice as many individuals within the vessel if absolutely no combat activity is to be undertaken."
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« Last Edit: April 06, 2003, 07:18:57 am by Kohr-Ah_Primat »
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We are the Ur-Quan Kohr-Ah.
Our nature, the fulfillment of our fate requires your destruction.
You are filth. It is now your time to be cleansed.
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John Doe
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Re: Vela?
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2003, 10:07:36 am » |
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Just because an Earthling cruiser holds 18 during melee and the full game doesn't mean it can't hold more than that.
For battle purposes maybe the cruiser only need 18 to run efficiently, any more would waste of personel. The starbase commander does state that the cruiser was meant as a research vessel, not as a pityless weapon of war.
For a research vessel to only crew 18 people would seem like a waste, it would take that many just to operate it. If it is meant for long-range missions and research it would need to have a much larger crew, so I could easily see it holding upwards of 100-200 personel.
Even if the cruiser could only house 18 people, don't you think they could of been escorting a transport which carried the science team.
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Shiver
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Re: Vela?
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2003, 11:47:24 pm » |
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20 bucks says that the Ur-Quan found and blew up the precursor factory, though.
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Re: Vela?
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2003, 01:54:45 am » |
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As I recall, the colonists basically lived in and around the factory anyway, so that'd be the first giveaway. Also, when the Quan blasted parts of Earth, especially whatever was under the ice and in the Amazons, one would assume they scanned for it somehow. A race that has been enslaving people for an eternity isn't likely to commit the mistake of not checking for HUGE installations underground.
Aslo, the Quan have a lot of subservient races on their Dreadnoughts. And even if they had to go down themselves, the Quans are supposed to be huge fearsome predators, not to mention they probably have all sorts of high tech gear. So they could probably pretty much walk over whatever human resistance that greeted them
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