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Re: And the two greatest games in the world are....
« Reply #45 on: June 13, 2006, 08:29:44 pm »

The two GREATEST games of all time would have to be X-COM 1 (2 was a clone and 3 was inferior) and Star Control 2 (Am I biased in favor of science fantasy?  Naaaahhh!)

Reasons: Gameplay (especially mixed gameplay!), storyline, dialogue, humor and graphics that were state-of-the art at the time make them not only playable, but enjoyable and even superior to this day.

MOO-2 and The Secret of Monkey Island come pretty close behind those two, though.

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Best RPG: Pen, paper, imagination and a good GM, there are no computer RPGs.
True.  Anyone who disagrees with this statement doesn't know what an RPG really is.  There are, however, a lot of good computer adventure games that call themselves RPGs.

NeverWinterNights:  Shadowlords, Dreamcatcher series by Adam Miller
                                     Honor Among Thieves by Baldecaran
                                     Twilight series by Rick Burton (Finish it Rick!!!)
                                     Art of the Thanaturge by Wes Lewis
How could you forget Penultima?  How?  You must not have played it.  That's the only explanation I can think of.  And Demon is a big improvement on Dreamcatcher.


The birthright of all computer games... Dungeon, Adventure! and Zork  especially Zork Grand Inquisitor...
Return to Zork was the best Zork game that I played.  It was the most Zork-y, though YMMV. 
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Re: And the two greatest games in the world are....
« Reply #46 on: June 17, 2006, 10:06:18 am »

I want to play too. Breaking it down into rough genres (just because I don't want to make a 'top ten' list)

Best adventures:
Grim Fandango, Gabriel Knight: Sins of the Fathers, Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge

Best FPS:
System Shock 2, Thief: The Dark Project, Deus Ex

Best CRPGs:
Wizardry VII: Crusaders of the Dark Savant, Fallout 2, Planescape: Torment

Best strategy:
Master of Orion, UFO: Enemy Unknown (X-COM), Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri

Best 'hybrid':
Star Control 2, Ultima Underworld 2, Sacrifice

There are plenty of great games out there that never get mentions, too. How about Realms of the Haunting? Beneath a Steel Sky? CyberMage? Entomorph? Shadows Over Riva? They've pretty much faded into obscurity now, but I'd include any of them on a "best 100 games of all time" list.

And I've got to concur that the overall "best" two games would be X-COM and Star Control 2, for the reasons Lance listed.
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Re: And the two greatest games in the world are....
« Reply #47 on: June 18, 2006, 01:48:20 am »


NeverWinterNights:  Shadowlords, Dreamcatcher series by Adam Miller
                                     Honor Among Thieves by Baldecaran
                                     Twilight series by Rick Burton (Finish it Rick!!!)
                                     Art of the Thanaturge by Wes Lewis
How could you forget Penultima?  How?  You must not have played it.  That's the only explanation I can think of.  And Demon is a big improvement on Dreamcatcher.

The Gange mods are popular and good, but I wouldn't say absolutely great.  Crimson Tides of Tethyr was great at its ambience, and I agree that Demon is better, but because it has less bugs.

Two greatest games of all time for me are Master of Magic and Archon Ultra.  Some people lean scifi, and some people lean fantasy I guess.
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« Reply #48 on: June 19, 2006, 09:14:35 pm »

5. Master of Orion 2 (DOS) – Best turn-based space sim ever. I loved designing my own ships and sending them out to crush those annoying Klackons.

4. Unreal Tournament (Windows) – Had some great times with this one. I’ve spent countless hours fragging online. Good times with good people.

3. Battletoads (NES) – A lot of people I know are ambivalent about this one, mostly because it was ridiculously difficult to beat. But it was loads of a lot of fun beating up all those rats and pigs.

2. Heroes of Might and Magic 2 (DOS) – Ah, the ultimate in turn-based strategy. The hand drawn phoenixes, dragons, minotaurs, etc looked gorgeous at the time. And the music was awesome (the opera tracks were outstanding).

1. Star Control 2 (DOS) – Best of the best, IMO.
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Re: And the two greatest games in the world are....
« Reply #49 on: June 21, 2006, 10:02:07 pm »

1: Half-Life 2: Just a damn good FPS.

2: Star control 2: BEST RPG EVER!!!!! &@#$ MARIO (RPG)!!!!!!

3: Counter-strike: Online FPS with blood and real dead bodies, doesn't get better than that.

4: Starcraft (Broodwar): Pays homage to Star Control (Terran Battlecruiser, Protoss Carrier).

5: Worms: World Party: Cute little worms, worming their way across the feild with BAZOOKAS, UZIS, SHOTGUNS and worst of all....... SHEEP!!!!!




..... Nuff said.
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Re: And the two greatest games in the world are....
« Reply #50 on: June 24, 2006, 01:01:24 pm »

In no particular order; here are some of my faves:
Star Control 2
Fallout 2
Icewind Dale 2
Dungeon Master 2
Master of Orion 2
Starcraft
Half-Life (1, didn't play 2 yet)
DOOM (1 and 2, didn't play 3 yet)
TES 3: Morrowind
Xenogears (Man, that story ROCKED)
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« Reply #51 on: June 29, 2006, 10:23:44 pm »

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One of the most atmospheric RPGs. The music, the depressive backgrounds, weird spellcasting system, magic and technology combined... great.

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That's all 3DO's fault!! Smiley MM4,5 and HMM1,2 were great. I enjoy these graphics even now. Monsters in MM4,5 were nice (if not to say CUTE Smiley). Everything else - naah (well, maybe HMM3 is not that bad). And then, MM6, and everything gone wrong... Sad

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Ohh... when I first saw a Concrete Donkey in action... Smiley)
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« Reply #52 on: June 30, 2006, 03:02:21 am »

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« Reply #53 on: June 30, 2006, 12:20:21 pm »

Forgot to mention Metal Combat: Falcon's Revenge, one of the most underrated games ever released. The graphics were a real eye candy back then on SNES, the music perfectly fitted the game, and the gameplay was perfect from the start to finish. A high replayability value (including mainly discovering enemies' weak spots, breaking time limits and multiplayer) was also included in the game.
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Re: And the two greatest games in the world are....
« Reply #54 on: July 17, 2006, 05:38:01 am »

If you just have to have two:

1-Star Control II.

Sure, I was rather late to the party, having only bothered to play when UQM 0.4.0 was out. But the whole package is excellent. For one, the music. Who would have thought that a contest held by the impoverished devs would have resulted in one of the best game soundtracks of all time? Then there's the gameplay. The combat's solid, landing on planets to fetch minerals and lifeforms isn't too bad, and interacting with aliens was well done-you had multiple responses, and there were plenty of witty and humorous lines that didn't come off as cheesy. The story isn't too bad, either-I won't go into detail about that because I don't want to spoil anything. Other thoughts include the fact that you don't need to spend thousands on PC hardware just to play it(which is, sadly, the norm as of PC gaming today), and that Fwiffo has to be one of the best game characters EVER!

2-System Shock 2

I've played many games over the years, but I think this was the first one I truly loved. I read a small magazine article on it, and that somehow compelled me to pick up the game when it lay before my eyes on a store shelf one day. I never regretted it-the atmosphere was tense and scary, the gameplay fun, and the story good, with a few twists. Of course, I was younger then, and therefore more easily spooked-especially when I turned off the lights. The fact that my gaming skills weren't as good then didn't help things, nor was the lack of ammo laying around or the high prices of ammo from a replicator. Maybe my description isn't doing it enough justice(besides, the best way to experience a game is to play it), and maybe other games like Deus Ex or Fallout should take this spot, but I believe SS2 is the one title that really made me embrace video games.

(P.S.-I hope this topic isn't too old to bump.)
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« Reply #55 on: July 19, 2006, 04:37:31 pm »

4: Starcraft (Broodwar): Pays homage to Star Control (Terran Battlecruiser, Protoss Carrier).

I definitely see how the Battlecruiser is a black hammerheaded Dreadnaught with no fighters, down to the Yamato gun visuals... but I don't follow you on the Carrier.
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« Reply #56 on: July 19, 2006, 08:55:45 pm »

I definitely see how the Battlecruiser is a black hammerheaded Dreadnaught with no fighters, down to the Yamato gun visuals... but I don't follow you on the Carrier.
It's the part of the dreadnaught that the Battlecruiser isn't.  Listen, next time it launches fighters.
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« Reply #57 on: July 19, 2006, 09:39:32 pm »

Eeh... I guess I'll have to listen to the SFX. The general idea that it should launch fighters with a limited range is hardly an homage on its own.
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« Reply #58 on: July 22, 2006, 10:36:07 pm »

You know, 'bout that ship designe..... I noticed that a lot of ships in SF (especially in Star Trek) have an upsidedown T look (well, not quite like that but all are VERY SIMILAR); for example: Chrmm Avatar,  Ur-Quan Dreadnought (if you take those nascelles or whatever they are) Vux Intruder, Syreen Penetrator and in other SF stuff: Enterprise, Voyager or nearly any ship from Star Trek, Terran Battlecruiser, Terran Wraith from Star Control etc. I think its because they have just upgraded look of todays jets so it turns out that way.
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« Reply #59 on: July 24, 2006, 01:09:33 pm »

2-System Shock 2

I've played many games over the years, but I think this was the first one I truly loved. I read a small magazine article on it, and that somehow compelled me to pick up the game when it lay before my eyes on a store shelf one day. I never regretted it-the atmosphere was tense and scary, the gameplay fun, and the story good, with a few twists. Of course, I was younger then, and therefore more easily spooked-especially when I turned off the lights. The fact that my gaming skills weren't as good then didn't help things, nor was the lack of ammo laying around or the high prices of ammo from a replicator. Maybe my description isn't doing it enough justice(besides, the best way to experience a game is to play it), and maybe other games like Deus Ex or Fallout should take this spot, but I believe SS2 is the one title that really made me embrace video games.

(P.S.-I hope this topic isn't too old to bump.)

This is such an amazing game. Atmosphere, story, it's all there.  Thank you for reminding me, I shalll dig it out of my cupboard immediately.
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