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« Reply #30 on: November 16, 2005, 10:28:56 pm »

"People who cannot properly care for a child should not be able to have them. Ideally, for the good of the whole, I think reverseable sterilization at birth is in order."

Whoa. I thought the one child policy (which was terminated in 2002) was the only good idea the People's Republic of China has ever come up with, from my personal moral standpoint. But this is getting a little out there. Some people get to decide if other people should be allowed to have surgery to repair their reproductive systems, which were artificially shut down by the state, using some technique which will undoubtedly cause some long term health issues.

I mean, your not saying "don't have more than one kid, because we have too many people on the planet" or "if you want to become a citizen of this nation, you have to be sterilized first". You are saying "I am a morally superior godlike entity who will TELL you if you are worthy to have kids, under any circumstances I, or the current government deems fit."

I'd like to ask the supporters of this idea, who the hell gets to decide who is fit or not? What are the criteria for immediate sterilization? Religion? Affirmative Action? Family Political Voting History? Looks? Academics?

What if a child is born without the sterilization and grows up? Do you hunt him down? What if he resists you and doesn't want to go under your knife, do you shoot him?
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« Reply #31 on: November 17, 2005, 12:24:03 am »

I didn't say it was a perfect idea. However, let's keep something else in
mind here. Some people, many actually, in Canada _request_
sterilization and are turned down. Why? Because the government, state
and moral majority claim that it's wrong...unless the person is
over thirty, has multiple children and is married.
This is completely rediculous. A person with more than one
child, with the right to vote can't opt for volentary sterilization?

As a result, and partly due to poor planning and/or poor birth control,
we have a LOT of unwanted children running around. Now, if the
state feels they can deny us the right to sterilzation, I fail to see
what is so wrong about turning it around and saying a person
must meet certain requirements before having a child.

Perhaps, say, the same requirements for adoption are in order.
No, I'm not saying we should hunt down non-sterilizes or even
that it's an excellent idea. But testing people to see if they
are emotionally stable, passably intelligent and don't have a recent history
of violence sounds like a nice thing to do for the sake of the next
generation.

Keep in mind, the government can already take away a child from a mother
at birth, if it deems she is unable to raise the child. This just cuts out
the pregnancy part.
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« Reply #32 on: November 17, 2005, 03:43:35 am »

But you still have a fight over what can be considered sterilization worthy. Also, do you just wipe out the disk drives of women or men or both?
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« Reply #33 on: November 17, 2005, 02:10:34 pm »

Men only.
Why? Because it's faster, less painful, less intrusive and
fewer things to go wrong. Also, if you don't have fertile men, you
don't have pregnant women. Yes yes, there could be
immigration factors, but for the most part, a men-only solution
would work.

As to who would be baby-making worthy, I think I just answered that.
If the state would take the baby away from the parent(s) immediately
post-birth then don't let 'em make the child to begin with.  Granted,
that still leaves a lot of unfortunate room open for poor
parents, but ideally those laws would toughen too.
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« Reply #34 on: November 22, 2005, 08:42:53 am »

But he answered and said,"I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel." Matthew 15:24

Translation:He's was NOT sent here just for israel's sake

English isn't your first language, is it? That's okay, quick lesson here.

"I am not sent" -- note the negative. He's not sent.
"But unto the lost sheep....." -- The "but" here (a negative), means about the
same as "except".

When you put two negative together, they make a positive. Hense
it might be re-translated as, "I am sent here to the lost sheep of Israel, exclusively."

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Umm no.The But is not a negative in this case.Its sekecting the israelites.So its more like it means "just".Heres proof look at why Jesus sais this here ill say it for u.But go ahead and check ure Bibles to see if im tellin the truth.

It starts at Matthew 15:21.
21-Then Jesus went thence, and departed into the coasts of Tyre and Sidon.
22-And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.
23-But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.
24-But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
25-Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.
26-But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.
27-And she said, Truth,Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters table.
28-Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.

Thier u see even though she wasnt israelite Jesus healed her daughter anyways. And if thats not enough.

John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Keyword in that is "Whosoever".Last time I checked WHOSOEVER did not mean Israelites.

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U gotta remember that God is omniscient,omnipresent,and omnipotent

The Biblical God is not, actually, omniscient and omnipresent. This
is well demonstrated in Genesis during God's questioning of
Adam in, I believe, chapter three.

Umm i dont know bout that one in fact thats a question of debate for another thread,ill study on that later mabey tommorow its late right now.

Ok now about what the current sterilization question. Well I say if ure so worried about over population. Then just make fornication and adultery illegal.That will lower baby count by about %25 (And thats the low estimate).
And it will drastically slow if not completely STOP the spread of sexually transmitted diseases.And punishment can be 5 years and sterilization.
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« Reply #35 on: November 22, 2005, 10:26:50 am »

Good job Nathanael.  Cheesy

Quoting the bible out of context is one of those things that just irks me when people do it.
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« Reply #36 on: November 22, 2005, 02:19:25 pm »

...on the other hand it's not very difficult to quote something that's purposefully vague and open to interpretation in whatever context that suits your fancy.
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« Reply #37 on: November 22, 2005, 05:24:41 pm »

Darn it.I foregot to preview it.Sorry guys. Umm the bottom qoute is supposed to end after the line.

"Adam in, I believe, chapter three."

And again im really sorry.
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« Reply #38 on: November 22, 2005, 07:57:03 pm »

Well, she had to practically drag it out of him...

What's this, where he says that bread isn't for dogs... so basically he just said that non-jews are like dogs.

Wow. Nice hole you've got there.
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« Reply #39 on: November 23, 2005, 02:23:49 pm »

I thought this article was interesting.  I don't care much for 50 Cent or his music, but he does believe in parental responsibilities.  Although I don't think his game would be the one I would choose for my kids...

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6140323.html
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« Reply #40 on: November 27, 2005, 12:11:26 am »

Saddly I've heard the Canadian government is trying to keep
50 Cent from touring in our country. The idea is he is too dangerous
and his message too violent. So, yes, we'll show his music
videos and sell his games, but we don't actually want him here.

It's so sad the way this country lets its government cenor its
people. I'm not a fan of 50 Cent, but I respect his right to
get up in front of people who are willing to pay to listen
to him and say whatever the heck he wants.
It's not like he's forcing people to hear his music,
people have to put down money for it and go to
the concert.

Yet another sign that our government has its reactionary
head up its arse.
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« Reply #41 on: December 20, 2005, 08:17:55 am »

 Angry Angry >:(this is a load of bullshit! im 12 and i grew up playing abandonware versions of leisure suite larry, the gta series, doom and freelance and according to these posts im likely to go into space and start shootingtrade lanes and become a lane hacker. its bullshit Angry Angry Angry Angry
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« Reply #42 on: December 22, 2005, 10:16:46 pm »

hey im back and read this all.

I would like to say any person who takes video games, television programs, movies, or reading material so seriously that they actually would go hijack a tank, blow up a building, run down pedestrians, and beat a prostitute, they need to be blugeoned  to death with sharp block of parmesaen cheese. It is not the industries job to inform us about the law within our entertainment. Just the fact the politicians and parents blame violence on television and video games is irresponsable. If you don't want your children exposed to violence then don't. Don't go bitch about it when you bought your child GTA: SA and sue Rockstar because you saw your child beat up a prostitute.  God, the fact that these bitchy peace hippies want to sensor violence, sex, and swearing is unbelivable since they are normal actions that humans use many times during their lives. In Europe a game called "Faruinheit" -excuse my spelling error- was released in europe with a sex scence in it between two people, and it was rated M. Nothing was shown in it except an ass and some breasts. Yet here in a America, we couldn't help it. The country the starts wars, still executes people and calls itself civilized, and has a horrible leader, still wanted to censor the sex scence out and the american version was called "The Indigo Prophetcy". Wow whoever here belives in this kind out censorship in videogames and movies, please meet me at  Mt. Saint Helens in *washington*  Tongue , ill give you a little push and thenn you won't have to worry about censoring every thing you can get your bitchy little hands on. CHRIST JESUS I WILL CASTRAT ANYBODY WHO BELIVES IN THAT BULLSHIT!  Angry



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« Reply #43 on: December 23, 2005, 12:41:19 pm »

And Merry Fuck-You-Hilary-Clinton to you too.
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« Reply #44 on: December 23, 2005, 06:20:10 pm »

CHRIST JESUS I WILL CASTRAT ANYBODY WHO BELIVES IN THAT BULLSHIT!  Angry
A little violent, you? What have you been playing recently?
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