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« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2005, 01:32:23 pm »

Following the rules from the Bible only...and those it tells you
to follow, wouldnt' that make you non-denominational?
The Bible has some very interesting stories and some
very good points. I would also like to point out that
it was written a long time ago for a people who
lived in a very different culture. Because of that, I
think one should be careful how closely one applies
Biblical lessons to modern society.
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« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2005, 08:33:42 pm »

Which is why i said MOSTLY Pentacostal (keyword mostly).I went very descriptive thier that i dont follow religous view only my Bible.That im not totally Pentacostal.

And about what the Bible applies.The Bible will always apply.It doesnt matter if weve advanced.U gotta remember that God is omniscient,omnipresent,and omnipotent.When he had people write this stuff.He already saw what we do now days and what we have now days.
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« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2005, 12:02:59 pm »

My Lord, the Only True Lord, Odin, approves of violent games. In fact, people with high scores in Commando Libya gets a special seat at his table in Valhalla, maybe even a lapdance by a Valkyrie.

The Flying Spaghetti Monster probably also approves of violent games, a long as they involve noodle-like appendages and a pirate or two.

The Invisible Pink Unicorn on the other hand might not... BUT you'll probably find a proponent in the Purple Oyster!

    "For I did see my unworthiness in Her sight, for I was a sinner, destined forever to spend existence in the presence of the unholy Purple Oyster; Waxing his shell and massaging his most wretched and slimy feet. For, lo, the Purple Oyster doth truly have feet, and the legs thereof, and the toes thereof, giving him dominion over all the clams of the seas, and allowing him to go unto the children of men, and tempt them unto destruction.
    -- The Revelation of St. Bryce the Long-Winded (Partial), Chapter One, Verses 9 to 11"


(I take that last part about destruction as an approval of violent videogames.)


Edit, Oh, by the way, There's plenty of hard proof that the Invisible Pink Unicorn really does exist, for example there's this photo:












...and this one is pretty good too!














...and I can't help showing this one cuz it's kinda funny and cute!
















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« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2005, 05:45:02 pm »

My Lord, the Only True Lord, Odin, approves of violent games. In fact, people with high scores in Commando Libya gets a special seat at his table in Valhalla, maybe even a lapdance by a Valkyrie.

Odin has no depth perception.  He might excel in old 2D-games, but modern 3D challenges are far beyond him. Kind of fitting, as his days of glory are long gone as well.

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And about what the Bible applies.The Bible will always apply.It doesnt matter if weve advanced.U gotta remember that God is omniscient,omnipresent,and omnipotent.When he had people write this stuff.He already saw what we do now days and what we have now days.

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True, but none of those included "Thou shalt not play violent games". Are we to take it that God approves of violent games then?

So I take it you are of the opinion that God is either neutral, or in favour of violent games then?
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« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2005, 03:01:24 am »

Im guessing that comment is towards Bioslayers Moses comment.bBut just in case.

No.In fact all i was saying about god (well in the earlier part anyways.)Is that parents are supposed to teach us kids right from wrong and teach us wisdom.

I havnt found any verses reffering to violent role play.So im guessing that it isnt much of a subject to God.Im still guessing when i say that,that God doesnt care if we play violent games.As long as we do the violence in real life against actual people.
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« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2005, 03:03:19 am »

Sorry for double posting guys.I foregot to say something.

Sorry Ivan for breaking my promise of keeping my God out of this.But I just felt it neccesary.
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« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2005, 07:36:33 pm »

Sorry for double posting guys.I foregot to say something.

Sorry Ivan for breaking my promise of keeping my God out of this.But I just felt it neccesary.

Oh, don't you worry about me,l have nothing against discussing god or the bible specifiaclly, I just don't like it when people try to use their holy texts as an argument in a discussion on a different topic.
You just have to keep in mind that saying thigs like "this is wrong because the Bible says so" or "God wanted us to do such and such" will give you different reactions from people who have different beliefs.
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« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2005, 09:32:30 pm »

I relize this
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« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2005, 03:02:56 pm »

And about what the Bible applies.The Bible will always apply.It doesnt matter if weve advanced.U gotta remember that God is omniscient,omnipresent,and omnipotent.

So when Jesus said his teachings were for the people of Isreal only,
we should keep that in mind. The rest of us can go on about
our business, with or without violent video games.
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« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2005, 06:52:40 pm »

Jesus teachings, yes. Congratulations, you may now start living according to the Old Testament smart-aleck.

Going back in the actual topic direction, seeing as we were briefly talking about parents that are unfit. Can you consider having a child to be a human right? Is it something that everyone has a right to, or would it be possible that somehow limit the privilege of parenting to those who have taken some sort of test? I realise that this is impossible in practice, but in theory, do you believe conceiving is a human right?
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« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2005, 11:29:11 pm »

Umm Zeep Eeep could u tell me what verse,Jesus says his teaching our only for the people of israel?

Now about Lucky's question.Hmm thats a toughy.I have two arguements that keep fightin eachother in my head and both pretty good.But with my thinking ive come to the the conclusion that yes it is a right.

Life is givin from God.So who are we to choose who gets to have a child.Thats God's decision alone.So anybody who is given a child from God,has a right to have that child and raise it.
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« Reply #26 on: November 16, 2005, 01:34:32 am »

Umm Zeep Eeep could u tell me what verse,Jesus says his teaching our only for the people of israel?

Matthew Chapter 15 verse 24.
I believe this also occures in Luke.

As for whether people have the right to have children, I'll
go with "no". So often people have parenting ideas which
conflict with what we call human rights. People who
cannot properly care for a child should  not be able
to have them. Ideally, for the good of the whole, I think
reverseable sterilization at birth is in order.
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« Reply #27 on: November 16, 2005, 05:24:03 am »

But he answered and said,"I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel." Matthew 15:24

Translation:He's was NOT sent here just for israel's sake
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« Reply #28 on: November 16, 2005, 02:49:31 pm »

But he answered and said,"I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel." Matthew 15:24

Translation:He's was NOT sent here just for israel's sake

English isn't your first language, is it? That's okay, quick lesson here.

"I am not sent" -- note the negative. He's not sent.
"But unto the lost sheep....." -- The "but" here (a negative), means about the
same as "except".

When you put two negative together, they make a positive. Hense
it might be re-translated as, "I am sent here to the lost sheep of Israel, exclusively."

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U gotta remember that God is omniscient,omnipresent,and omnipotent

The Biblical God is not, actually, omniscient and omnipresent. This
is well demonstrated in Genesis during God's questioning of
Adam in, I believe, chapter three.
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« Reply #29 on: November 16, 2005, 03:09:37 pm »


Now about Lucky's question.Hmm thats a toughy.I have two arguements that keep fightin eachother in my head and both pretty good.But with my thinking ive come to the the conclusion that yes it is a right.

Life is givin from God.So who are we to choose who gets to have a child.Thats God's decision alone.So anybody who is given a child from God,has a right to have that child and raise it.

That's Gods decision? And here I thought that was the desicion of those getting the kid. You know, those gettign in the sack, or signing up for fertilization treatment or wahtever. The way you're putting it, if I stop someone from having a child, that's also God's decision and completely alright. I'm not talking divine rights here, but human rights.

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Ideally, for the good of the whole, I think
reverseable sterilization at birth is in order.

I agree, even though the statement feels a little fascist. Because that brings us right up to, who decides if someone else is allowed a child, and how.
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