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Re: Improving the original? What to improve to do the game even better?
« Reply #180 on: February 20, 2006, 12:12:56 am »

let's see.. what's left?

if I'm not mistaken...
LIST
...pick your favorite Wink

Hrm...I was about to say we were a lot further than I thought, but you left out quite a few unfortunately... the Umgah and the Androsynth for two.

Gonna make a complete list, along with a note with which I'm personally interested in trying...

- Androsynth GUARDIAN
c Arilou SKIFF
- Chenjesu BROODHOME
c Chmmr AVATAR
c Druuge MAULER
- Earthling CRUISER
v Ilwrath AVENGER
c Kohr-Ah MARAUDER
- Melnorme TRADER
* Mmrnhrm X-FORM
v Mycon PODSHIP
* Orz NEMESIS
- Pkunk FURY
c Shofixti SCOUT
- Slyrandro PROBE
- Spathi ELUDER
- Supox BLADE
- Syreen PENETRATORv
c Thraddash TORCH
- Umgah DRONE
- Ur-Quan DREADNAUGHT
- Utwig JUGGER
* VUX INTRUDER
c Yehat TERMINATOR
- Zot-Fot-Pik STINGER

c's me, v's Vile, and * means I may try it soon. ^^

One thing that worries me though is if our designs are compatible.  Vile's are so much...cleaner!  And probably much better for use in a game.

But maybe that's insecurity talking. ^^;
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Re: Improving the original? What to improve to do the game even better?
« Reply #181 on: February 20, 2006, 12:16:45 am »

To be honest, something I'd like is the ability to keep playing after you finish the story.

Or can you do that anyway? I haven't played this game in years.
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« Reply #182 on: February 20, 2006, 12:22:33 am »

I'm pretty sure the game ends.  But if you use that "De-clensing" Mod, I suppose you could play indefinitely before taking out the Sa-Matra.

Side note: I tried running a quick "Sharpen" filter on my models.  IMMEDIATELY looks much more in line with Vile Rancour's.  So that's good. ^^
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« Reply #183 on: February 20, 2006, 12:24:26 am »

It would be kind of nice to be able to keep playing; there are a lot of stars in the galaxy.

I wonder how hard that would be to code?
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« Reply #184 on: February 20, 2006, 12:28:19 am »

I doubt it would be hard to code.  The problem is half of the alien conversations will cease to make sense.
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« Reply #185 on: February 20, 2006, 12:44:19 am »

P.S: I can't see the Podship's animation. how frames are in it?

16, same as in the game. (Hmmm, it should be working... Try refreshing or copy-pasting the link.)

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c's me, v's Vile, and * means I may try it soon. ^^

Heh, I was thinking of trying that one next.  Oh well, there's more than enough to go around, I suppose. Smiley

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One thing that worries me though is if our designs are compatible.  Vile's are so much...cleaner!  And probably much better for use in a game.

Don't talk nonsense - yours are perfectly fine. Well, the Druuge could benefit from being redone... but at any rate, I imagine that all of these designs would have to be downsized a bit, even for the highest zoom level, so that any perceived lack of "cleanness" would be straightened out. Not that I think it's needed, but just to quiet your fears. Smiley
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« Reply #186 on: February 20, 2006, 12:50:47 am »

Eh, go for it.  The Vux is too shiny-smooth for my style anyway.  Seriously, do it. Smiley

Besides, X-Form is one of my favorites in Super-Melee  Grin And I'd rather tango with Zex than pilot an Intruder...
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« Reply #187 on: February 20, 2006, 01:48:54 am »

Thanks. The VUX is a bit of a challenge I think, since the shape, detail, and even the color  vary wildly between the in-game sprite, the big icon and the ship-spec graphic. Gonna give it a try though...
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« Reply #188 on: February 20, 2006, 01:55:57 am »

I tend to use the SC2 portrait as the most canon.  Though occassionaly I take notes from the original ship specs.  (like the darker Shofixti top and the kill paws...)

Be interested which color you pick. ^^
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« Reply #189 on: February 20, 2006, 01:55:40 pm »

Hrm...I was about to say we were a lot further than I thought, but you left out quite a few unfortunately... the Umgah and the Androsynth for two.

right.. sorry about that. didnt concentrate very well, had a test the day after.



It would be kind of nice to be able to keep playing; there are a lot of stars in the galaxy.

I wonder how hard that would be to code?

what do you expect to do after the Sa-Matra? mine planets and squish everyone in super-melee with double hellbores and the tracking device?

if it's the melee you're after, you could just play Super Melee


on the other hand, one feasible way to continue the game would be just as the ending says - destroy the remaining Ur-Quan fleets, together with the Chmmr and the rest of the gang. all the spheres of influence would advance to the middle.. perhaps add a few harmless tasks to the captain.. might be nice and completely in-line with the story, no need to make up new plots.
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« Reply #190 on: February 20, 2006, 05:19:42 pm »

Alright - I ended up going with the blue color, for two reasons. One - you can see, the in-game sprite has about as much detail as a Thraddash has subtlety, so it was easier to just work with the larger icon. Two - an aesthetically-obsessed species like the VUX wouldn't really paint their ships an ugly teal color picked out of an artistically-challenged EGA palette. Wink

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« Reply #191 on: February 20, 2006, 06:25:10 pm »

impressive!

nice touches there on the details!

maybe you should consider adding a bit of ambient light on the ship's hull near the.. exhaust pipe (seeing as the afterburner's aura should reflect on the metal hull)
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« Reply #192 on: February 20, 2006, 06:58:43 pm »

Alright - I ended up going with the blue color, for two reasons. One - you can see, the in-game sprite has about as much detail as a Thraddash has subtlety, so it was easier to just work with the larger icon. Two - an aesthetically-obsessed species like the VUX wouldn't really paint their ships an ugly teal color picked out of an artistically-challenged EGA palette. Wink



This sort of thing has, I think, merited it's own thread. You guys are totally going to town on those. I'd love to see more of the rotating pictures too, tho.
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« Reply #193 on: February 20, 2006, 07:59:39 pm »

btw, are you guys using a Wacom pen or some other instrument?
how the hell do you do it?  Shocked
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« Reply #194 on: February 20, 2006, 10:38:49 pm »

Great work! I think you made the right choice in making it dark blue, it looks a lot richer.
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