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Re: Interesting Paul Reiche III revelation
« Reply #30 on: January 31, 2006, 11:28:29 pm »

Someone has obviously never been married...  Tongue
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« Reply #31 on: February 01, 2006, 08:37:03 am »

I believe that, at one point, the one non-frungy loving zoq fot  pik is refered to as female by the frungy loving one.
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« Reply #32 on: February 01, 2006, 09:38:52 pm »

King missile! Nice nick.

Yes, I suppose that the Zoq, Fot, and Pik you talk to at the homeworld might be heads of state, in which case the Pik is probably male, while the Zoq is female. Okay, one on the list and one more extra-dubious (Fot).
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« Reply #33 on: February 02, 2006, 12:01:56 am »

How can you tell which is which?

But yes, assuming they are indeed the heads of state, the green one is female, the blue one is male, and the quiet one in the middle is gender indeterminate. However, the ZoqFotPik you speak to never really struck me as anyone important in the hierarchy of their society. I'd say they might be comm officers for the military, tops. More likely (considering how laid back they tend to be), they don't have very much of a formal governmental structure (or at least, can't be bothered to waste time talking about it), and the ones you talk to are just whoever happens to be manning the communications array that day.

Would an actual head of state really be so obsessed with Frungy that it works its way into coversation with anyone who happens to come along? Or threaten to blow a cloud of spores at their colleague?
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Re: Interesting Paul Reiche III revelation
« Reply #34 on: February 02, 2006, 01:27:14 am »

Would an actual head of state really be so obsessed with Frungy that it works its way into coversation with anyone who happens to come along? Or threaten to blow a cloud of spores at their colleague?

Not neccessarily disagreeing with you, but if you consider the Star Control universe at large, I'd venture "yes" is not an improbable answer..
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« Reply #35 on: February 02, 2006, 04:41:42 am »

How can you tell which is which?
It says so in the source code, but i'm not sure that FF/PR3 ever meant it to be certain.
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« Reply #36 on: February 02, 2006, 03:00:31 pm »

When you consider how odd the ZFP are and the stuff
that comes out of the mouths of OUR heads of state....
It seems pretty likely they'd wander in conversation.
Besides, you can make an alliance with the ZFP,
that likely means they're heads of state.
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Re: Interesting Paul Reiche III revelation
« Reply #37 on: February 02, 2006, 05:04:06 pm »

You can make an alliance with any Orz you encounter (except the ones on the Taalo world). Does that mean they're all heads of state?

Actually, considering some of the speculation on the nature of the Orz, that might not be too far out of the realm of possibility. Roll Eyes

Still, how about another bad example: You can begin instructing the Thraddash about Culture 20 with any random spacefaring specimen. Does that make that random starship captain a head of state?
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Re: Interesting Paul Reiche III revelation
« Reply #38 on: February 02, 2006, 07:40:49 pm »

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Whichever one accepts your surrender is head of state NOW...

That's why they keep chasing you after they've given up trying to kill you. Each captain wants to be the one!
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Re: Interesting Paul Reiche III revelation
« Reply #39 on: February 03, 2006, 01:24:19 am »

When they were talking about the homosexuality in the article, I thought they were referring to ZEX, not the androsynth.  I could see it referring to the androsynth too though.
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Re: Interesting Paul Reiche III revelation
« Reply #40 on: February 03, 2006, 05:06:07 pm »

Well, ZEX is not portrayed in a positive light; and he's more XENO than HOMO.
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Re: Interesting Paul Reiche III revelation
« Reply #41 on: February 04, 2006, 12:11:45 am »

I thought he meant the Syreen, they're like all... Yuri.

I wouldn't agree with the idea that the game tries to create an serious discussion on moral though, it seems to me they just played on different types of cultures to get some nice variation.

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Re: Interesting Paul Reiche III revelation
« Reply #42 on: February 04, 2006, 05:35:31 am »

I have to agree with Arne, I don't think this game has any really serious visionary message behind it. It just takes more of a comical look at things (not that that is a bad way to go at all though, don't get me wrong.) I don't think that the UQ dialogue really stands out as something too different from what I've seen in other complex villains. Of course, getting that kind of message across can't really be done in text anyway. That's where acting comes in (unless of course the player can draw on his own experiences, then he can fill in the blanks in your mind.)
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