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Afghani Man being setenced to death for converting from Islam to Christianity!!!
« on: March 27, 2006, 06:23:23 am »

Abdul Manan is being sentenced to death in Afganistan for converting from Islam to Christianity. That isn't right and heres a news article on it by ABC news:

By DANIEL COONEY

KABUL, Afghanistan Mar 19, 2006 (AP)— An Afghan man is being prosecuted in a Kabul court and could be sentenced to death on a charge of converting from Islam to Christianity, a crime under this country's Islamic laws, a judge said Sunday.

The trial is believed to be the first of its kind in Afghanistan and highlights a struggle between religious conservatives and reformists over what shape Islam should take here four years after the ouster of the Islamic fundamentalist Taliban regime.

The defendant, 41-yer-old Abdul Rahman, was arrested last month after his family accused him of becoming a Christian, Judge Ansarullah Mawlavezada told The Associated Press in an interview. Rahman was charged with rejecting Islam and his trial started Thursday.

During the one-day hearing, the defendant confessed that he converted from Islam to Christianity 16 years ago while working as a medical aid worker for an international Christian group helping Afghan refugees in the Pakistani city of Peshawar, Mawlavezada said.

"We are not against any particular religion in the world. But in Afghanistan, this sort of thing is against the law," the judge said. "It is an attack on Islam."

Mawlavezada said he would rule on the case within two months.

Afghanistan's constitution is based on Shariah law, which is interpreted by many Muslims to require that any Muslim who rejects Islam be sentenced to death, said Ahmad Fahim Hakim, deputy chairman of the state-sponsored Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission.

Repeated attempts to interview Rahman in detention were barred.

The prosecutor, Abdul Wasi, said he had offered to drop the charges if Rahman converted back to Islam, but he refused.

"He would have been forgiven if he changed back. But he said he was a Christian and would always remain one," Wasi told AP. "We are Muslims and becoming a Christian is against our laws. He must get the death penalty."

After being an aid worker for four years in Pakistan, Rahman moved to Germany for nine years, his father, Abdul Manan, said outside his Kabul home.

Those people in Afganistan are horrible, this is the kind of democracy our government set up there. Good job Bush, you had them right a constition liking that of Iran's.....
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Re: Afghani Man being setenced to death for converting from Islam to Christianity!!!
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2006, 09:44:16 am »

Two things.

1) Their decision to execute the guy is a horrible affront to humanity.

2) It's their right to do it. The Afghani people can make up their own minds about Afghan law, can't they?
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Re: Afghani Man being setenced to death for converting from Islam to Christianit
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2006, 12:43:01 pm »

Er, the extremists aren't the only ones that want this guy dead- they all do. Sorry if that's a shock to you, but that's how the Middle East's culture has been for thousands of years. Everyone does things the way that they are, because thats how things have always been done. Someone upsets the flow, they are punished.

To them, this man is seen as wreaking havoc and causing unwarranted commotion in the community, his denouncal of their religion (and therefore way of life) nonwithstanding.

I feel for the guy, but he should've seen it coming. I mean, his own family turned him in. Turning against Islam is illegal in Afghanistan.

This appears to be a bit of hope for him. However, this makes a soul wonder what's going to happen if he is indeed let go.
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Re: Afghani Man being setenced to death for converting from Islam to Christianity!!!
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2006, 05:03:36 pm »

As was already pointed out, if the court releases this guy,
the people will likely kill him in the streets.

Hey, guys, look at the bright side. If he's right and
Christianity is the way to go, he'll be in Heaven soon.
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« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2006, 09:53:29 pm »

I was just listening to my local news radio (KSL in Utah) and they said the courts through out the case.

Perhaps this will embolden others who may keep the beliefs under the table to come out in the open and really change things over there.
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« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2006, 04:23:59 am »

I don't think they threw the case out, let me see an article on this.
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« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2006, 06:29:07 am »

Well, Qu'ran-only Islamists do not typically/always feel that apostasy should bring a death penalty, as the Qu'ran seems to mention how to deal with a person who has commited apostasy multiple times.  Meaning to them that this wouldn't be possible if they were killed after the first time.
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Re: Afghani Man being setenced to death for converting from Islam to Christianity!!!
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2006, 04:49:20 pm »

Now, I actually knew an Islam guy who when he converted to Christianity his father lobodimized him. It was an act of mercy. Clearly, since he's crazy (now) he's not resposible for the religion he attends.

It's messed up, but as Zeep-Eeep said :
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The guy's gotta know that and be willing to accept that risk when he converted.
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Re: Afghani Man being setenced to death for converting from Islam to Christianity!!!
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2006, 06:54:07 pm »

http://civilliberty.about.com/b/a/2006_03_28.htm

Here is a URL to a new story that says that he was let go because he was "mentally unfit to stand trial."

So being Christian makes you nuts.
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« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2006, 08:57:45 pm »

http://civilliberty.about.com/b/a/2006_03_28.htm

Here is a URL to a new story that says that he was let go because he was "mentally unfit to stand trial."

So being Christian makes you nuts.


Well, at least it's 100s of times better than being put to death. If I were him, I'd leave that damn country and never return. His family doesn't seem to care enough about him, so why should he bother coming back?
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« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2006, 03:05:21 am »

I think the moral is converting to Christianity in a country where
they'll kill you for it is nuts. Converting to Christianity in most
places....might not be as nuts.
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Re: Afghani Man being setenced to death for converting from Islam to Christianit
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2006, 08:09:30 am »

It's not really even christinaity that's the issue here, is it? I thought it was against religious law to convert from Islam. Meaning he could just as well have become a Buddhist or a Hindu, and he'd be in the same pickle.

Still, it's sad to see that we once again lack initiative and eagerness in the west. Why are we not demonstrating in front of Afghani, Pakistani and Iranian embassies, demanding that they stop persecuting Christians? Flag burning would be nice too. After all, the idea of demanding respect for your religion should work both ways.
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Re: Afghani Man being setenced to death for converting from Islam to Christianit
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2006, 10:14:31 am »

Because we don't care.

ADD: Actually, it's because we don't want to step on any toes by protesting about a man's religious rights (or lack thereof) in another country. A country the average American knows next to nothing about, save the commonly negative images the mass media feeds them.

Don't want to agitate anyone, after all. Just keep your head down and go about your business, citizen...be politically correct and no one gets hurt...














...or do they?
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« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2006, 03:17:17 pm »

Why don't we protest? Because the last thing anyone
wants to do is tick off a crazy person.
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« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2006, 08:00:22 pm »

My task masters would not tolerate my going out and protesting anything.
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