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Re: NEWS: Toys for Bob go for a new Star Control and need your help (READ!)
« Reply #45 on: September 05, 2006, 05:05:59 pm »

But again, if the UQ play only a small part in the next game, "UQM II" will not make much sense at all. Perhaps "Orz Masters" or "Precursor Masters" or whatnot?
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« Reply #46 on: September 05, 2006, 06:37:56 pm »

But again, if the UQ play only a small part in the next game, "UQM II" will not make much sense at all. Perhaps "Orz Masters" or "Precursor Masters" or whatnot?
The point is that we don't know what it's about yet, so, to avoid awkward phrases like "the possible sequel to UQM", I suggested talking about "UQM II" until we have a real title or, at least, a codename, to use.
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« Reply #47 on: September 06, 2006, 04:14:06 am »

But when you hear "UQM II" you think it is an offshoot of this project, like a sequel made from the same engine. They really need to try and buy their name back. Until then, what about TFBSC3? I little longer, but I think that is a little more clear. Perhaps SC4 could also be used, if you think you could stomach the idea of legitimizing SC3.
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« Reply #48 on: September 06, 2006, 08:16:44 am »

TFBSC3 is a bit cumbersome, and I had to retype it twice (TFBSC#, anybody? I think we have a variant of c# here specifically made for The Sequel), so, uhh, no. Instead, lose the FB part - True SC3
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« Reply #49 on: September 06, 2006, 08:55:16 am »

But when you hear "UQM II" you think it is an offshoot of this project, like a sequel made from the same engine. They really need to try and buy their name back. Until then, what about TFBSC3? I little longer, but I think that is a little more clear. Perhaps SC4 could also be used, if you think you could stomach the idea of legitimizing SC3.

Not necessarily. SC2 didn't use the same engine as SC1. And any sequel would be an offshoot of UQM/SC2 so it's alright to assume that. After all it's not even really SC2 either, it's SC2:UQM.

Alternatively you could think of the games as SC:FBUQC1, SC2:UQM2, and SC3:WTHYWTCIIOAWTFCOL3, shortened to WT4.

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« Reply #50 on: September 06, 2006, 03:55:26 pm »

SC2 didn't use the same engine as SC1.
I'm pretty sure much of the combat system in UQM is code originally written for SC1; the adventure section is probably newer than that, though.

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« Reply #51 on: September 06, 2006, 04:42:17 pm »

As an alternative to numbering confusion, they could simply drop the number altogether and just go with a subtitle (ie.: StarControl: Revenge of the Random Tagline). After all, few enough people remeber the older games (which could easily be included as pack-ins or unlockables for the new game, if time and source code allows), which means that a large number of people could see this as the start of a new series. They can be filled in on the details later (especially in the case of pack-ins or unlockables, which will incidentally make it abundantly clear which episodes are canon and which are not; if SC1 & 2 are included, and SC3 is not, guess which is which?).

I realize the idea of including the older games might not be practical (what with the lost source code for the first, especially), but I can hope for it, right?
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« Reply #52 on: September 06, 2006, 06:22:12 pm »

I'm pretty sure much of the combat system in UQM is code originally written for SC1; the adventure section is probably newer than that, though.

I always considered SC1s main engine to be the one used for missions, and SC2's engine to be the one used i nthe adventure game. Of course you are correct in observing that the melee engine was the same in both 1 and two, but as it isn't the main engine (in2 at least) I didn't consider it so. Following that logic however, and assumign that any sequel will include an melee, wouldn't it be completely correct to call it UQM 2:WT and claim that the combat engine is derived from the predecessor?

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It wasn't a serious suggestion. Wink SC3:TFB? SC3: RoTFB? SC3:NG? SC3: A New Hope? SC3:TW? SC3:WTF?

Point being, as long as there is no official name, we can't really call a sequel anything that isn't derivative of earlier names. UQM2 really seems to be the best filler, as SC3 is already taken. Once a project is in the works, the name can easily enough be changed.
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« Reply #53 on: September 06, 2006, 06:57:07 pm »

I've got it-- SCX

For all we know, it could be about ur-quan or it could be about orz, it could be SC-1, SC0, SC3, or SC4, so just call it SCX and be done with it. Easy to understand, easy to read, easy to type.

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« Reply #54 on: September 06, 2006, 07:14:45 pm »

Only if you wish to include racecars.

I non-anti-like it.
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« Reply #55 on: September 06, 2006, 07:43:19 pm »

Maybe I'm just jaded, but...

"Star Control X: Extreme Thraddash Downhill Snowboard Challenge" is sort of what comes to mind whenever I see games (or anything else) using a letter designation for little-to-no apparent reason. It seems to scream "only marginally related to the source material at best," and most of the time that's a perfect description of the content as well. Not that it COULDN'T work... It just hasn't in the past, at least not very often.
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« Reply #56 on: September 07, 2006, 04:47:19 pm »

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Only if you wish to include racecars.

Damn. But still, when one uses "SC" on a forum like this, all know this is not in reference to StarCraft.


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Good, because I like it too. Wink


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It does have a reason, as I explained. We don't know what it will be about. We don't know when it takes place. But if it didn't take place in this universe at all, we wouldn't be talking about it, so we know it is a Star Control game. So it is "Star Control" (universe) "X" (variable.) X also works, because it is an eXperimental designation (used for prototype aircraft originally) which is good for a possible game idea with no official confirmation expected in the near future. But again, this is just a temporary place holder or "working title" (I don't think fans can give "working titles" but it doesn't really matter.)

Well, either way, "SCX" is what I'm going to use, until the real title is announced. Anything else is too confusing until there are more details.
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« Reply #57 on: September 08, 2006, 08:26:06 am »

HOw about SCY? not as extreme, but just as groovy Wink
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« Reply #58 on: September 08, 2006, 03:36:24 pm »

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It doesn't make sense to use "Y" unless you've already used "X".


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Yes, all mathematics textbooks should be rewritten, and all experimental aircraft in the aeronautical museums reclassified, simply because there's people out there on skateboards who think they are "xtreme". On a similar note, I guess we should also consider the duudssonit group, average representatives of your eXtreme culture, eh? Wink


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Games that center on sweeping galactic wars and conflicts, needn't contain high levels of grooviness.
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« Reply #59 on: September 09, 2006, 03:17:03 pm »

My computer is five years old and a mac... Im not sure if it would work on my computer. I really hope they make it for the wii, because im not a big xbox or playstation fan.
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