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Re: NEWS: Toys for Bob go for a new Star Control and need your help (READ!)
« Reply #60 on: September 14, 2006, 02:44:24 pm »

Here's what i'd like to see in new Star Control:
- plot as good as in SC2
- more ROTFLish texts Grin
- MP Super Melee
- game style similar to SC2, but with some plot-forced driffence.
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« Reply #61 on: September 14, 2006, 09:33:44 pm »

It doesn't make sense to use "Y" unless you've already used "X".

Fair enough. How about SCW?

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Yes, all mathematics textbooks should be rewritten, and all experimental aircraft in the aeronautical museums reclassified, simply because there's people out there on skateboards who think they are "xtreme". On a similar note, I guess we should also consider the duudssonit group, average representatives of your eXtreme culture, eh? Wink

My reply was to Draxas, but you make a good point.

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Games that center on sweeping galactic wars and conflicts, needn't contain high levels of grooviness.

If you are somehow implying that SC isn't groovy, I shall be forced to declare you a heretic and have you burnt at the stake

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« Reply #62 on: September 15, 2006, 12:41:05 am »


Yes, all mathematics textbooks should be rewritten, and all experimental aircraft in the aeronautical museums reclassified, simply because there's people out there on skateboards who think they are "xtreme". On a similar note, I guess we should also consider the duudssonit group, average representatives of your eXtreme culture, eh? Wink


Can I just point out that us normal everyday skateboarders don't refer to what we do as extreme, it's actually the media who calls bmxing/skating/blading/etc. extreme sports? Smiley.  We just do what we do because we love doing it!  To us, it's just skateboarding.
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« Reply #63 on: September 15, 2006, 05:34:04 pm »

Yes, all mathematics textbooks should be rewritten, and all experimental aircraft in the aeronautical museums reclassified, simply because there's people out there on skateboards who think they are "xtreme". On a similar note, I guess we should also consider the duudssonit group, average representatives of your eXtreme culture, eh? Wink

I suppose it might be relevant to mention that we're not discussing mathematics nor experimental airplane design, but video games. In that regard, the X takes on a totally different meaning than "algebra variable." Not to say that you didn't mean it in that context when you proposed it, but I (and I imagine, most others) tend to have a different frame of reference when I consider video games, as opposed to mathematics. In this case, that frame of reference sees X in the pop-culture light.
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« Reply #64 on: September 16, 2006, 03:40:54 pm »

Well, whether they use an X or Y or W for the title, I'm afraid i won't be able to play it. I have an older computer that doen't handle 3d very well, so if they actually make it compatible, I'm afraid if they make it 3d I won't be able to play and be stuck with Ur-Quan masters for the rest of my life...
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« Reply #65 on: September 16, 2006, 04:41:13 pm »

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Fair enough. How about SCW?

I'm not sure people would see it as a variable. Looking at it, my first assumption is that the W stands for War, and not just a mystery. I guess you mean it stands for "What?," perhaps?


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Oh, you were only joking, I'm glad you cleared that up. Smerg, smerg. . .I mean. . .snork, snork, snork.


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We just do what we do because we love doing it!  To us, it's just skateboarding.

I understand entirely, we feel the same way about burning heretics at the stake. To us it's just a bonfire.


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I suppose it might be relevant to mention that we're not discussing mathematics nor experimental airplane design, but video games.

Indeed, as it would be to mention that we are not discussing "extreme" sports, but a SciFi Action/RPG.

However, mathematics has to do with numbers, and the symbols that represent them like 1, 2, 3, 4, and X, amoung others, are highly relevant. Thus, when these have been invoked through the use of a "2" or a "3" in a title like "Star Control 2: the Ur-Quan Masters" or "Star Control 3: Flush this Crap Down your Toilet," it is fair to assume that you can use others, like 0, 1, 4, X, etc.
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« Reply #66 on: September 16, 2006, 05:09:27 pm »

I think they should just call it Starcon and leave it at that, like they were going to do. That way it doesn't scare off people who haven't played before, like "hmmm, haven't played the first 3, better not buy it."
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« Reply #67 on: September 18, 2006, 08:17:22 am »

I'll support it as long as SC3 is officially removed  from canon.  They don't even need to include a number.  Just call it "Star Control: _____". Fill in the blank with whatever they want.  For example, they could call it "Star Control: Black Spathi Squadron", or anything else that'd fit.
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« Reply #68 on: September 19, 2006, 10:37:40 am »

I'm not sure people would see it as a variable. Looking at it, my first assumption is that the W stands for War, and not just a mystery. I guess you mean it stands for "What?," perhaps?

Star Control: What? seems a good choice Smiley. And war will very probably be involved on some level, or at least i certainly hope so.  If there is a sentient league that tells me I can't attack funny-looking people again, I shall be very cross.

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Oh, you were only joking, I'm glad you cleared that up. Smerg, smerg. . .I mean. . .snork, snork, snork.

Shouldn't that be HAR HAR HAR?

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Indeed, as it would be to mention that we are not discussing "extreme" sports, but a SciFi Action/RPG.

I think that Draxas meant that if someone only seesthe title SCX, they'll assume tht it is an extreme game of one sort or another. This whole conversation was originally about a non-confusing name for a sequel. Your own argument that UQM:2 would infer a similar engine to UQM seems based on the same assumption; that people who do not already know about the project will become confused.
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« Reply #69 on: September 19, 2006, 03:51:18 pm »

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Somehow it makes sense that you'd be a blobby Umgah.

I am? Well I guess that would be a step up then.


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Twisted sense of humour, mischievous, not as much evil as deranged.

I'm not real big on gmos though.


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Shouldn't that be HAR HAR HAR?

Wrong blobby.


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I think that Draxas meant that if someone only seesthe title SCX, they'll assume tht it is an extreme game of one sort or another.

Not if they see it on this forum. Remember, if you mention  "SC" anywhere else, people will probably think you refer to StarCraft or another game. So people here will know what you mean.


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Your own argument that UQM:2 would infer a similar engine to UQM seems based on the same assumption; that people who do not already know about the project will become confused.

Just the opposite, people who know about UQM will think that UQM2 is an offshoot of the project. SCX is a place-holder title for people who already know a little about the projects and history of this universe. And again, many think that a sequel to SC2 would not revolve around the UQ anyway. That is my biggest complaint about "UQM2" as a title- it assumes the project is about Ur-Quan and their thralls.


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However, mathematics has to do with numbers, and the symbols that represent them like 1, 2, 3, 4, and X, amoung others, are highly relevant. Thus, when these have been invoked through the use of a "2" or a "3" in a title like "Star Control 2: the Ur-Quan Masters" or "Star Control 3: Flush this Crap Down your Toilet," it is fair to assume that you can use others, like 0, 1, 4, X, etc.

I couldn't agree more. Wink
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« Reply #70 on: September 19, 2006, 04:12:39 pm »

My suggestion for refering to it until a real name is released, would be "SC2+1".
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« Reply #71 on: September 19, 2006, 06:36:49 pm »

I've got it. Simple, elegant, perfectly descriptive:

NSC = New Star Control
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« Reply #72 on: September 20, 2006, 04:12:33 am »

I've got it. Simple, elegant, perfectly descriptive:

NSC = New Star Control

With a name like that, I'll totally be expecting polygonal graphics in a 2.5D engine, Mega Shiva Furnaces that let you slag planets, Mini Planet Landers that allow you to go through tiny wormholes, and a super annoying Ur-Quan kid who wants to help his father kidnap Talana.
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« Reply #73 on: September 20, 2006, 07:53:22 am »

Not if they see it on this forum. Remember, if you mention  "SC" anywhere else, people will probably think you refer to StarCraft or another game. So people here will know what you mean.


Just the opposite, people who know about UQM will think that UQM2 is an offshoot of the project. SCX is a place-holder title for people who already know a little about the projects and history of this universe. And again, many think that a sequel to SC2 would not revolve around the UQ anyway. That is my biggest complaint about "UQM2" as a title- it assumes the project is about Ur-Quan and their thralls.

Quite correct, I had my bearings mixed up. In that case, I'd second Meep's "SC2+1". Anyone on the forum would realise that this is a sequel to SC2 that replaces the abomination.
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« Reply #74 on: September 20, 2006, 10:38:49 am »

My suggestion for refering to it until a real name is released, would be "SC2+1".
Well, that would be pretty unambiguous (and shorter than "UQM II"). I'm inclined to go with meep-eep, because TFB consistently refer to making a new Star Control game instead of a sequel to the Ur-Quan Masters.
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