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Re: NEWS: Toys for Bob go for a new Star Control and need your help (READ!)
« Reply #225 on: February 10, 2013, 03:22:29 pm »

With the announcement of a new Space quest called Space venture, and an extension of the monkey island adventure already done (tales of monkey island) Can anyone of those companies not help this Epic Creation Star Control ?

Lucas now owned by Disney, if they are willing to do these things for those excellent quest games why can something similar not happen for Star Control. Sad Sad !


They need to make using the landers adventurous and exciting and challenging, similar to what the units look like in rts games, and with the awesome effects they create these days (planet weather craft effects) in (cnc type  games)


Regarding the landers on a new SC game:

They need to make it for one to personally steer the units (landers) onto the newly scouted mysterious planet with all the awesome weather effects and land somewhere of interest / resource rich, all manually controlling the craft (man what magic one could create with todays technology) With so many planets to discover and explore..... heck i'll quit my job just to play this full time... Smiley

Star Control has an insanely amount of potential, it could take RTS into a revolutionary change (as long as they keep the exploring factor up) Space is insanely vast and awesome. Star Control is an untapped masterpiece !
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« Reply #226 on: February 10, 2013, 03:38:45 pm »

I mean how could such a genius game just be left out of human kind, we humans are made to explore outer space. Star Control is the Root that fuels that excitement ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! I am truly at a loss for words and will forever be until they make the next STAR CONTROL ALREADY ! ! ! ! !
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« Reply #227 on: August 06, 2013, 05:10:51 am »

I think by this point Paul and Fred have moved on and saw this project and so decided to leave it up to the fans to complete star control 3.
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« Reply #228 on: August 07, 2013, 08:38:43 am »

Read your headlines! They've already been contacted by Stardock, and will supposedly be "involved" in the reboot this fall. Not a ton of details I've seen, other than that. Here's a comforting interview with Star Dock. They sound like real UQM fans. I can't wait to see the results!

http://www.rtsguru.com/article/6311/Stardocks-Derek-Paxton-on-Resurrecting-a-Classic-Franchise-Star-Control.html

We may un-sticky this topic yet! !
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« Reply #229 on: August 07, 2013, 08:50:49 am »

It wouldn't be as much like Star Control as you expected. As business men Stardock would have to recognize that the Star Control series was not widely popular, not to mention that as a company they would be afraid of copywrite issues, even if many of the people who managed to play it are large fans. But anyway, maybe we don't need to wait with p6014 going to be reactivated soon.
I'd like to report that with the writing of many other key fans I am having great success creating the "ultimate" plotline for p6014 that finds a place for all races and closes all the loose ends that were desperately awaiting an answer in a way that utilizes key details of what already exists on the wiki page, so be sure not to look on the wiki if you don't want to see any spoilers, but have faith that a good story is being produced.
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« Reply #230 on: August 08, 2013, 06:54:47 am »

If you read any of the articles, Star Dock now OWNs the Star Control "copyrights", and have already contacted Paul directly, to have him involved. The lead "business man" has already said he's a Star Control fan, and has even played UQM. He actually quoted some of the orz lines in an interview. Smiley

Not that I wouldn't love to see Project 6014 completed, just that you may be more excited about the Star Dock reboot,  if you actually read anything about it.
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« Reply #231 on: August 09, 2013, 07:44:27 pm »

I'd hope stardock does something good but last time another company got involved star control 3 came out, it seems worrying they aren't going to listen to bob just like how fox didn't listen to Joss Whedon about the first 6 episodes of doll house and continuing firefly.
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« Reply #232 on: August 09, 2013, 09:40:45 pm »

Well I sent two emails to 2 different parts of star dock asking if they would be willing to have any kind of community participation in designing the project.
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« Reply #233 on: August 10, 2013, 09:26:20 pm »

They've already posted multiple times on this very forum that they will be lots of community involvement. I'm not sure if you're reading the same things, but Star Dock is going out of its way to get Paul and co. involved. They actually agreed on this forum ("frogboy"?), that Star Control 3 wasn't great. Go read some articles, or the primary thread a few posts down.

Not trying to sound like a fan boy, but I think this is the best shot we'll get, 20 years late, at a real, new, Star Control game. I'm excited!
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« Reply #234 on: August 13, 2013, 06:22:43 pm »

They've already posted multiple times on this very forum that they will be lots of community involvement. I'm not sure if you're reading the same things, but Star Dock is going out of its way to get Paul and co. involved. They actually agreed on this forum ("frogboy"?), that Star Control 3 wasn't great. Go read some articles, or the primary thread a few posts down.

Not trying to sound like a fan boy, but I think this is the best shot we'll get, 20 years late, at a real, new, Star Control game. I'm excited!

I saw like one stardock article and then a youtube response that Paul and Fred sent out saying "we'll get to the next star control...eventually", and that's about it.
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« Reply #235 on: August 15, 2013, 06:20:23 am »

They've already posted multiple times on this very forum that they will be lots of community involvement. I'm not sure if you're reading the same things, but Star Dock is going out of its way to get Paul and co. involved. They actually agreed on this forum ("frogboy"?), that Star Control 3 wasn't great. Go read some articles, or the primary thread a few posts down.

Not trying to sound like a fan boy, but I think this is the best shot we'll get, 20 years late, at a real, new, Star Control game. I'm excited!

I saw like one stardock article and then a youtube response that Paul and Fred sent out saying "we'll get to the next star control...eventually", and that's about it.

I don't think you're using the same Google.

There's more than enough threads here,  and lots of info out there now. Not going to bother repeating anything here. Suffice to say, it's an exciting time to be a SC fan.

And this doesn't mean Project 6014 can't still be developed in parallel. (Assuming anyone is still working on it.) The 2 projects are unrelated.
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« Reply #236 on: August 16, 2013, 05:14:59 pm »

They've already posted multiple times on this very forum that they will be lots of community involvement. I'm not sure if you're reading the same things, but Star Dock is going out of its way to get Paul and co. involved. They actually agreed on this forum ("frogboy"?), that Star Control 3 wasn't great. Go read some articles, or the primary thread a few posts down.

Not trying to sound like a fan boy, but I think this is the best shot we'll get, 20 years late, at a real, new, Star Control game. I'm excited!

I saw like one stardock article and then a youtube response that Paul and Fred sent out saying "we'll get to the next star control...eventually", and that's about it.
There's defanitely stuff from Fwiffo I saw, but that's mostly stuff about SC2, not the real UQM2. p6014 couldn't possiblt compare with the hundred programmers and artists that stardock has, so it would be more worth it to complete it if stardock has yet to complete their SC project for a looong time, but i don't know exactly how long or complicated they are going to make the game, so I can't really estimate how long it will take.

I don't think you're using the same Google.

There's more than enough threads here,  and lots of info out there now. Not going to bother repeating anything here. Suffice to say, it's an exciting time to be a SC fan.

And this doesn't mean Project 6014 can't still be developed in parallel. (Assuming anyone is still working on it.) The 2 projects are unrelated.
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« Reply #237 on: October 02, 2013, 05:29:43 pm »

I'm very happy that Stardock seems to respect the franchise where Accolade did not.  I was worried they would try to remove Ur Quan Masters to protect their new investment, so them saying they're fans of UQM is good news.  Who knows, maybe Stardock might allow the UQM team to properly rename it to Star Control II someday!

Stardock might be a small company, but they've carved out a niche for themselves in creating quality 4X games in the tradition of Civ and Masters of Orion.  They've got the basic foundation to create a successful SC2 reboot.  What they're not known for would be in depth writing and characterization, which is a very important piece to the Star Control puzzle.  We want these aliens to be interesting and funny.  Especially funny.  It's SC2's humor that stood out to me when I originally played it.  How Stardock will handle the story is anyone's guess.

I think it's great that they've reached out to Paul and Fred, and I hope they can convince them to contribute.  If not, then at the very least, I would hope that Paul and Fred create a 'spiritual successor' to Star Control someday.  A new property that they would own themselves.  Regardless, it's good that the ownership of the franchise has passed on to someone who actually gives a s**t. 

We all have high hopes and expectations, Stardock! We know you're reading this forum! Don't let us down!
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« Reply #238 on: October 20, 2013, 10:33:55 am »

I'm very happy that Stardock seems to respect the franchise where Accolade did not.  I was worried they would try to remove Ur Quan Masters to protect their new investment, so them saying they're fans of UQM is good news.  Who knows, maybe Stardock might allow the UQM team to properly rename it to Star Control II someday!

Stardock might be a small company, but they've carved out a niche for themselves in creating quality 4X games in the tradition of Civ and Masters of Orion.  They've got the basic foundation to create a successful SC2 reboot.  What they're not known for would be in depth writing and characterization, which is a very important piece to the Star Control puzzle.  We want these aliens to be interesting and funny.  Especially funny.  It's SC2's humor that stood out to me when I originally played it.  How Stardock will handle the story is anyone's guess.

I think it's great that they've reached out to Paul and Fred, and I hope they can convince them to contribute.  If not, then at the very least, I would hope that Paul and Fred create a 'spiritual successor' to Star Control someday.  A new property that they would own themselves.  Regardless, it's good that the ownership of the franchise has passed on to someone who actually gives a s**t. 

We all have high hopes and expectations, Stardock! We know you're reading this forum! Don't let us down!

I agree with you so much!  Wink
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« Reply #239 on: October 20, 2013, 04:38:18 pm »

I was worried they would try to remove Ur Quan Masters to protect their new investment, so them saying they're fans of UQM is good news.

That's a totally unnecessary worry. There is no copyright infringement in The Ur-Quan Masters, and neither the GNU General Public License (which the source code is under) nor CC BY-NC-SA (which the data files are under) are revocable. Even if Stardock intended to shut UQM down, it would not be possible. (Well, software idea patents can shut pretty much any free software project down, but patent absurdity is off-topic.)
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