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Paul Reiche III is linked to the Nintendo Revolution
« on: April 25, 2006, 09:44:19 am »



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Why am I standing in front of the doorway of prominent development studio Toys for Bob? And why am I next to old-school game developer and all-around funnyman Paul Reiche, probably best known as one half of the Star Control II design team?

And why am I wearing the same clothes I wore at the Nintendo event one night before this visit?

I guess E3 brings out some pretty odd questions. Wonder if there are some good answers to them.

http://blogs.ign.com/craig-ign/2006/04/24/14007/p2

Toys for Bob is designing the Tony Hawk launch game for the Revolution (using the unique controller and all).

Two questions:

1) Is this an indication that Star Control 2 (or even Star Control 1 of the Genesis) being available on the Virtual Console?

2) Will the true sequel to Star Control 2 be put on the Revolution? Revolution would be cheapest to develop for and the controller is a natural fit for 3d space ships.

I'm not even going to start with IGN's Nintendo T-shirt with "HMD" on it... (Head Mounted Display) as we all know where that goes.
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« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2006, 10:25:59 am »

Ahh, so that's the mysterious "other project" mentioned in recent news posts.

Interesting... I hope they decide to release the next starcontrol game for the PC, though. I'd think that most of the fans of the series would be primarily PC gamers, and TFB might lose a good portion of those fans if they decide to go console-only.
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« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2006, 10:40:38 am »

From what I hear from insiders, pc gaming isn't where the money's at anymore. If TfB feels they should go the console route in order to make the green then I'm ok with it as long as they release it for pc as well.
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« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2006, 11:29:31 am »

Fortunately, SC2 is a game that's very suitable for a console, so they wouldn't have to make any compromises to the game itself.
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« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2006, 01:00:24 pm »

If buying a new console would be what it would take to play the sequel to SC2, then that's what must be done.
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« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2006, 03:22:05 pm »

I have a hard time imagining that TFB would ever abandon the roots of the Star Control franchise by going exclusively console. They're far more likely to do a release for BOTH the PC and one or more consoles.
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« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2006, 03:47:09 pm »

Might be difficult to port between the Rev and other platforms though... ?
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« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2006, 04:11:46 pm »

I have a hard time imagining that TFB would ever abandon the roots of the Star Control franchise by going exclusively console. They're far more likely to do a release for BOTH the PC and one or more consoles.
I suspect it's a sacrifice they would be willing to make in order to get to make a new SC.
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« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2006, 04:30:33 pm »

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Might be difficult to port between the Rev and other platforms though... ?

It depends somewhat on their initial plan. Generally, graphics are made for the highest end platform and then scaled down for the ones with small processors and video cards, etc. If they plan on jumping in and competing with games with engines like the UT2007 on the Xbox 360 and PC (PS3 too, if it ever comes out) then they build the games for these systems and then dumb it down for the rev. But, if they build for the rev, and then decide later to expand into the more powerful systems, it will not use the full power, or they'll have to build a lot of extra, enhanced content and such. This generally sucks, as the graphics of Defender or SWCW relatively sucked when ported to the Xbox.

Also, games on consoles are usually built very differently from PC games, because of the controller vs mouse/keyboard/joystick. The game would probably be more involved if it was designed for the PC. However, one good thing about console games (at least up until now,) is the developers are forced to put out a more stable product, because on consoles, you can't just tell people to download a patch in a few months that makes the game playable; the game disc is a stand-alone product. Of course, this may change with the more internet-savy, PC-like new consoles, but lets hope not.

Still, it would be better if the PC version was the primary version, and then ports were made to consoles from that. And let's really hope that it comes out for more than just the revolution, which would just suck (though it is a possibility.)
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I suspect it's a sacrifice they would be willing to make in order to get to make a new SC.

Yea, before it folded, the Starcraft Ghost project aimed exclusively for launch on consoles. This is part of the reason why I am happy that it was canceled.

If you look at the Xbox 360 and PS3 games, you'll notice that few if any (that I've seen thus far) are too far from being more realistic and dark themed than starcontrol (except that hypersonic rat game.) Yes, there's plenty of SciFi, but not like SC, by a long shot.

The revolution on the other hand, is supposed to be shooting for a younger crowd, with brighter more stylized graphics, and perhaps more gameplay diversity. So if it is heading for the next gen console market, it could easily be exclusive to the revolution.
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« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2006, 05:28:50 pm »

Chances are they'd go for Renderware for their engine. Supporting different platforms wouldn't be a problem then.
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« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2006, 06:16:28 pm »

I have a hard time imagining that TFB would ever abandon the roots of the Star Control franchise by going exclusively console. They're far more likely to do a release for BOTH the PC and one or more consoles.
Yeah, it just makes sense.
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« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2006, 06:19:49 pm »

I'll support a new Star Control "by any means neccessary", even if that means console-only. But I can still hope for a PC version.  Grin
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« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2006, 07:16:00 pm »

I don't think anyone could say that a console SC game would be horrible, since this entire forum is devoted to the porting of such a game. But if they went console, would it only be available for the revolution (which will otherwise be a platform with a high suckiness level, in my opinion?) I think it would have a better chance of coming to the PC, than the other two consoles.
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« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2006, 08:16:33 pm »

The revolution on the other hand, is supposed to be shooting for a younger crowd, with brighter more stylized graphics, and perhaps more gameplay diversity. So if it is heading for the next gen console market, it could easily be exclusive to the revolution.

Apparently you haven't heard about Red Steel, which is supposed to be a launch title for the Rev. Definitely not kiddie fare. I see from your other posts that you seem to have a heavy, sight-unseen bias against the Rev. What's that all about?

If TFB releases the next SC game for the Rev, that's probably good enough to sell me a console on its own. Anything else I might get for it would just be gravy (though all those classic Nintendo games certainly are tasty gravy).
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