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A Spam War
« on: May 08, 2006, 06:01:19 am »
I use something called blue frog from blue security to report my e-mail spam. It’s an interesting tool that sends a complaint to the spammer for each spam message I get.  It’s also fairly effective. So effective that the spammers decided to launch a ddos  attack against www.bluesecurity.com.

The hackers managed cause www.bluesecurity.com to be inaccessible for from May 1st to May 4th. But it’s now up again.

A war is going on the internet and most people are oblivious to it. So oblivious that they let their computers get taken over and used for criminal acts. Like a ddos attack. I will continue to use Blue frog because it does work and major spam rings have already agreed to stop sending e-mails to people who use blue frog. Now I’m asking you to help in stopping spammers, by either getting blue frog or making sure every computer you have access too is not a slave to a hacker.
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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2006, 10:22:57 am »
I didn't realize blue frog was that effective... it seemed to me rather pointless when I read about it (like clicking the "unsubscribe" link at the bottom of a spam message.)

My incoming mail filters are about 75-95% effective, although I'll give this a try if it's working for you, especially if it's available as a plugin for thunderbird or firefox.

EDIT: Ok, got the plugin... how do I get a BlueFrog ID? I'd rather not download the software if possible...

EDIT2: Found it, finally. They really buried that sign in link deep!
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2006, 08:43:55 pm »
It says it works with Gmail, Hotmail and Yahoo. What about my Evil mail, can I get it to work for that?
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« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2006, 09:49:22 pm »
Quote from: Halleck on May 08, 2006, 10:22:57 am
EDIT: Ok, got the plugin... how do I get a BlueFrog ID? I'd rather not download the software if possible...
The software is how the complaints are sent. And it doesn’t have a much of a footprint on system resources.

Quote from: Shiver on May 08, 2006, 08:43:55 pm
It says it works with Gmail, Hotmail and Yahoo. What about my Evil mail, can I get it to work for that?
On non gmail and yahoo stuff you just forward your spam to an e-mail address they provide you with once you register.


I did a little research of how to find out if a computer has been hack and there is a free tool to do this, but it’s rather complicated. It’s called nessus
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« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2006, 04:02:03 pm »
Quote from: BioSlayer on May 08, 2006, 06:01:19 am
The hackers managed cause www.bluesecurity.com to be inaccessible for from May 1st to May 4th. But it’s now up again.

Seems that it's down again...

Anyway, I'd like to know exactly how that software works. If it sends few messages to the spammers, it will do more harm than good, because the spam-senders will know that your e-mail is active.
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« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2006, 06:01:47 pm »
As I understand it, the system sends a massive amount of spam to
spammes. It's a ight fire with fire approach. At any rate, the
system is down. They got spammed. The irony is
beautiful.
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« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2006, 10:06:33 pm »
System has been down for about two weeks now... not so cool.

It doesn't spam the spammers exactly, but it files a complaint through whatever mechanism the spammers use- one complaint for each spam message recieved. The system is supposedly able to correlate the spammer's adress with a registry of spammers in order to properly file the complaint.

Users of Blue Frog are put on an encrypted opt-out list that the spammers are advised to not mail if they don't want to recieve a deluge of complaints. Evidently many spammers respect this list because the massive amounts of complaints they get are not worth the trouble, especially since they know the users on that list will never buy their products.
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« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2006, 02:42:35 am »
It ends up blue security decided to stop hosting their service. So if you have installed the client uninstall it.
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« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2006, 04:44:47 am »
Well that was cool. Not.
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« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2006, 08:47:10 am »
Quote from: Halleck on May 23, 2006, 04:44:47 am
Well that was cool. Not.
I'm in complete agreement.
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« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2006, 02:45:57 pm »
Hmm... it looks like a successor may be on the rise:
http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/05/26/1224209
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« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2006, 07:35:58 pm »
As one of the folks at Slashdot pointed out, he best way to
fight spam (long term) is to make it unproftable to spammers.
Sadly, this isn't likely to happen soon. So, in the mean time,
I'm happy to let spammers spam each other into frustration.
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