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Crashing The Game In Dialogues
« on: July 17, 2006, 02:36:37 pm »

Hello from Russia !!!. Sorry for bad english
First: Thank you for great work that you do.
And now the problem actually: the game crash with Windows always while i am in dialogue with somebody. For example i fly to Pluto to talk with Spathi, and when i choose some answer, game may immediately crash with Windows and only Reset button help me Sad . On the other hand if i try to finish dialogue "fast" (no reading, just by "space" & "enter" pressing) i have a chance that game will not crash and i continue to play, but such way is unacceptable.
Of course i tried to do "fast" dialogue with spathi on Pluto, because i think that the problem only in this dialogue, but on Starbase at dialogue with commander i still have crashes. It's impossible to play ! I still in Sol System Sad

Game version is 0.5, i've just downloaded it from your website. (uqm-0.5.0-3domusic.uqm, uqm-0.5.0-content.uqm, uqm-0.5.0-installer.exe, and also uqm-remix-pack1.zip - i set it as addon). OS is Windows XP SP2.
Configuration of uqm.cfg :

config.speechvol = 0
config.sfxvol = 100
config.musicvol = 100
config.audioquality = high
config.audiodriver = mixsdl        - i try OpenAL too
config.pulseshield = yes
config.positionalsfx = yes
config.smoothmelee = yes
config.showfps = no
config.3domovies = no
config.3domusic = yes
config.smoothscroll = yes
config.iconicscan = no
config.textgradients = no
config.textmenu = yes
config.subtitles = yes
config.fullscreen = yes
config.scanlines = no
config.scaler = hq                        - i try all scaler's
config.usegl = yes
config.alwaysgl = no
config.resheight = 768                - i try all resolution's
config.reswidth = 1024

configuration of my PC:
Mainboard - Asus A7N8X
Sound - built-in (nVidia nforce2 mcp, codec - Realtek ALC650), audio driver version  - 4.62
CPU - Amd Athlon XP 1800+ (Thoroughbred B)
GPU - nVidia GeForce FX 6600 AGP 256mb, driver - forceware 81.85

Earlier i complete this game on dos(original). Then in Windows (your version 0.2 and 0.3 too) and it was playable, but now i don't understand what is problem exactly. Please help me to find solution.

PS. Some russian enthusiast do russian translate of UQM 0.5 (as addon russian.zip), their site is http://uqm-rus.sh.nu/ if you put this link into your download section it will be great ! (My game crashes does not depend on in what language I play).
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« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2006, 04:11:11 pm »

Considering that UQM (and Windows) crashes the same way with both MixSDL and OpenAL in use and you don't seem to have the voice files installed, I'd guess that this is a graphics driver issue. Have you tried switching the graphics from OpenGL to SDL framebuffer mode?

You could try upgrading the display driver, but I don't recall having any issues with UQM under that Forceware release.
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Re: Crashing The Game In Dialogues
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2006, 05:11:39 am »

Hm. Very strange. I try to launch game by:

uqm.exe -r 640x480 -f -c hq -l log.txt -m 3do -q high --sound openal --cscan pc  --menu pc --font 3do -i pc --scroll 3do --shield 3do --addon russian --addon remix

and it's crash. After it i try

uqm.exe -r 640x480 -f -c hq -l log.txt -m 3do -q high --sound mixsdl --cscan pc  --menu pc --font 3do -i pc --scroll 3do --shield 3do --addon russian --addon remix

and it's work! but as i say i try mixsdl before!

after that y try

uqm.exe -o -f -c hq -l log.txt -m 3do -q high --sound mixsdl -M 50 -S 80 --cscan pc  --menu pc --font 3do -i pc --scroll 3do --shield 3do --addon russian --addon remix  (1024x786 opengl)

and it's work!!!

and now i try

uqm.exe -o -f -c hq -l log.txt -m 3do -q high --sound openal -M 50 -S 80 --cscan pc  --menu pc --font 3do -i pc --scroll 3do --shield 3do --addon russian --addon remix  (1024x768 opengl + openal)

and it's WORK!!! I Really don't understand anything, because i run game with that parameters before, and have crashes. Only difference is that earlier i laucnh game by shortcut (.lnk), which was created by game installer, with parameters: ["F:\Games\The Ur-Quan Masters\uqm.exe" --addon remix --addon russian], and other parameters i set by the in-game configurator. Now i launch it by something like uqm.bat, that containing: uqm.exe -o -f -c hq -l log.txt -m 3do -q high --sound openal -M 50 -S 80 --cscan pc  --menu pc --font 3do -i pc --scroll 3do --shield 3do --addon russian --addon remix

Anyway thank you ! I go to play Smiley
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Re: Crashing The Game In Dialogues
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2006, 05:45:18 am »

Ha! I've go a crash Smiley on

uqm.exe -o -f -c hq -l log.txt -m 3do -q high --sound openal -M 50 -S 80 --cscan pc  --menu pc --font 3do -i pc --scroll 3do --shield 3do --addon russian --addon remix

I think that problem is really in sound, i try use mixsdl now, because yesterday i play with mixsdl about 2 hours and don't have any crash.
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« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2006, 12:14:59 pm »

OK, this is probably an OpenAL issue, then, and the configuration menu is not behaving as expected. Did you restart UQM after switching to MixSDL using the configuration menu?

OpenAL has a lot of problems beyond our control and the benefits seem quite small to me for a game like UQM. It may be a good idea to remove OpenAL support or at least make MixSDL the default also for Windows.
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« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2006, 06:49:55 am »

//Did you restart UQM after switching to MixSDL using the configuration menu?//

No. I Thought that parameters was changed Instantly. Isn't it ? Anyway now i always run UQM through .bat file with launch parameters and have no problems.
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« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2006, 12:07:12 pm »

Some of the settings are not applied immediately on leaving the setup menu; sound output type is one of them. This may change in the future.

The setup menu is still under development, so using command line options to control UQM is still a good idea if you have problems with the setup menu.
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