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Re: A question on Open Source...
« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2006, 03:51:56 pm »

All you'd need is one little Shofixti wielding The Force, and a few strategically placed self-destruct buttons.
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Re: A question on Open Source...
« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2006, 05:40:26 pm »

What? TIE fighter equal to a Deadnought? Such nonsense! I'd more imagine a TIE fighter being about equal to 3 or 4 Dreadnought fighters...

Really?
How did you get that impression?
We don't really know much about the Dreadnoought's fighters other then that they are quite efficient at taking apart even very big ships.

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Really though, the Ur-Quan have nearly unlimited ammounts of ships, with gazillions of battle thrall ships

I must object.
You, and several others, are treating the gameplay of Star Control 2 far too seriously.
The amount of ships you can meet in hyperspace or on homeworlds, wasn't so big to give you an estimate of the actual size of a given race's fleet.
It was supposed to symbolize your lack of ability to single-handedly influence the universe by brute force.

If you are going to treat everything so literally, many more problems will surface:
Do you really think space combat takes place one ship at a time, while the others are just watching?
Are capital ships really about half the size of an avarage planet?
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Re: A question on Open Source...
« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2006, 02:52:18 am »

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In Star Wars, the average ship can jump across the galaxy in a day.

Uhm, no, that would take months as far as I could understand.
I think it's a hundred lightyears each day or something like that.


Heh, no. Take a look at The Phantom Menace. They go from Naboo to Tatooine in less than a day (a quarter of the way across the galaxy at least- Mid Rim world to Outer Rim world),  then from there to Coruscant in about a day (halfway across the galaxy- Outer Rim world to Core world). Take a look at all the other movies, and you'll see the same thing happening. Star Wars hyperspace travel is very, very fast.
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Re: A question on Open Source...
« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2006, 04:44:19 am »

Or the SW galaxy is very very small...  I'm on your side, but we have to look at all the possibilities.   Undecided
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Re: A question on Open Source...
« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2006, 12:09:02 pm »

I've read some SW books, and there it's not so fast... maybe the travel time is simply not mentioned in the movies ?
However... this is probably the correct authority Wink
http://www.starwars.com/databank/technology/hyperdrive/index.html
Although this is a bit vague, too.
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Re: A question on Open Source...
« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2006, 05:26:16 am »

I kinda mentioned this [urhttp://uqm.stack.nl/forum/index.php?topic=2933.msg37504#msg37504]before[/url], but since Star Wars happened "a long time ago in a galaxy far far away" and Star Control happens here and just a little into the future the events of Star Wars are long over when the events of Star Control start. Now if you want to just throw a "time warp" bandaid on the concept to make it work, worse things have been done to justify this sort of thing, but that's just so cheep I can't justify it.
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Re: A question on Open Source...
« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2006, 04:13:46 pm »

Star Wars wins, hands down. Star Trek would too.
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Re: A question on Open Source...
« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2006, 05:11:11 pm »

I get the impression travel in Star Wars is very fast. Now, I think
it's faster in the prequels than the originals. In the originals it
appears to take a few days to travel any great distance. However,
in Episode III (for example) it seems to take a few hours max to
travel from the inner regions to the outter rim. So, I agree, either
a really small galaxy or really fast hyper-drive.
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Re: A question on Open Source...
« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2006, 07:10:14 pm »

Just thought I'd bring this to attention:

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Re: A question on Open Source...
« Reply #24 on: August 21, 2006, 08:17:03 pm »

Star Wars wins, hands down. Star Trek would too.

But Star Trek gets their arse kicked by Star Wars.

I was actually hoping to find an ancient piece of fanfic I once found, but it seems to have vanished fro mthe internet. It told the story of a wormhole between the two universes, and some groovy combat. Still, this slightly crappy footage will have to do.
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Re: A question on Open Source...
« Reply #25 on: August 21, 2006, 08:38:05 pm »

Try stardestroyer.net, hit the forums, and look for the cleaned-up fanfics section. The proprietor has a good crossover fic on the subject. There are several others.

I would say that the sa-matra is quite strong, probably more akin to one of the EU superlaser-equipped super star destroyers.
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Re: A question on Open Source...
« Reply #26 on: August 21, 2006, 10:45:46 pm »

I would say that the sa-matra is quite strong, probably more akin to one of the EU superlaser-equipped super star destroyers.

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Re: A question on Open Source...
« Reply #27 on: August 22, 2006, 01:16:32 am »

Shucks, I thought you were linking to this.
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Re: A question on Open Source...
« Reply #28 on: August 22, 2006, 12:18:42 pm »

Star Wars wins, hands down. Star Trek would too.

But Star Trek gets their arse kicked by Star Wars.

I was actually hoping to find an ancient piece of fanfic I once found, but it seems to have vanished fro mthe internet. It told the story of a wormhole between the two universes, and some groovy combat. Still, this slightly crappy footage will have to do.

The Furry Conflict mayhaps..? Wink
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Re: A question on Open Source...
« Reply #29 on: August 22, 2006, 09:00:30 pm »

The Furry Conflict mayhaps..? Wink

Nope. To be honest, I doubt it is around anymore. It was insanely long, around 200 pages or some such, and the SW side was post empire, with han and leias children having gone over to the dark side after their parents murder.

Er... not that I rememebr much. It was fanfiction after all.

Oh, and I had forgotten how awesome that Ur-Quan 04 thing was. It is truly inspired.
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