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Re: Can someone tell me what happened in SC3?
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2006, 11:13:08 am »

Ignoring SC2 for the moment, SC3 is actually a decent (although far from excellent) adventure game. The problem with SC3 is that, if you've played SC2, you notice that pretty much everything Legend added to SC3 is pretty weak.

And, as has previoously been stated, even if you haven't played SC2, chances are you'll end up breaking the game a fair few times. This is really annoying and frustrating. I never *minded* the story that much, as I tend to appreciate any half-baked story. What I did mind was having to reload/restart the game several times because some time based event failed to execute.
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Re: Can someone tell me what happened in SC3?
« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2006, 03:32:14 pm »

You belatedly realise that it's gone 'hellup!' when you're sitting on day 6273 or thereabouts and nothing's happened for about the past 4000 days, give or take a month.

Clearly, their testing/QC department had all bunked off to surf in hawaii or something equally irreverent. Bastards.
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Re: Can someone tell me what happened in SC3?
« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2006, 11:51:26 pm »

I'm pretty sure they were using puppets, like in star wars and such, and not claymation.

this was in response to the people who said it was claymation, but I forgot to put a quote in...  Tongue
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« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2006, 10:02:30 am »

I'm pretty sure they were using puppets, like in star wars and such, and not claymation.

this was in response to the people who said it was claymation, but I forgot to put a quote in...  Tongue
My mistake. I've seen them referred to as both, and I'm trying to forget what SC3 looked like.
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Re: Can someone tell me what happened in SC3?
« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2006, 10:22:14 pm »

I don't think sc3 looks very good, although to those of you who have played it this must sound like "I'm starting to think water causes things to be wet". I thought most of the new races looked pretty good, but here's an example:



all of the captains appear to be standing, so close to the camera you can only see their heads, alone, in what appears to be a spare room that looks nothing like a bridge, and has no door. here are some more examples:







maybe the Arilou are standing in a microwave, that's what it looks like.



I actually like the way the Exquivan look, and there seems to be another sitting in the background. But in the end this one has the same problems as the others.



Maybe he's in a log cabin.



Where the heck is this doog standing?



*see Doog*



Cheese, Gromit! Yeah, none of you get the joke.



The syreen are just ugly.


I think he's eating a leech





this is a Harika. and I just realized that Yorns are crawling all over him.



I probably went a bit over board with the pictures, but I actually thought most of these were pretty good until I started looking at the backgrounds.
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Re: Can someone tell me what happened in SC3?
« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2006, 08:44:24 am »

My eyes!!!  I cannot see!

Now I understand all the hate here, I guessing the no-talent dorkass Legend hired breifly saw the SC2 character designs about a month before actually starting work on SC3.  The aliens of SC3 bear only a little resemblence to their counterparts of SC2.  And, if I'm not mistaken, SC3 came out at the end of the multimedia craze of the mid 90's.  That would explain how the captains are presented. 

If there is a fourth Star Control, I hope they don't call it SC4.  Just call it "Star Control - [Insert subtitle here]".  Without a numerical designation, it'll be easier to sweep SC3 under the rug and forget about it.
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Re: Can someone tell me what happened in SC3?
« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2006, 01:46:04 pm »

I've been watching some youtube videos of the SC3 races, most of them suck but they actually managed to make the Utwig cooler, by a fair amount aswell Cheesy.

The Arilou video, NYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!
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Re: Can someone tell me what happened in SC3?
« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2006, 07:52:32 pm »

www.classicgaming.com/starcontrol is the most complete source for star control 3 info as I can find, if you wanna go see.

I have not seen any videos of sc3, but I can only imagine how much worse it could be...

And for the star control 4 title, they were going to make in 1998 called Starcon but it got scrapped. To be honest, it might have been for the better because it looked like it was gonna be mostly a combat game.
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Re: Can someone tell me what happened in SC3?
« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2006, 09:43:48 pm »

I have not seen any videos of sc3, but I can only imagine how much worse it could be...

A YouTube user named ZarlaSheenaza has posted numerous video clips of the different races from SC3, if you're really curious. Just as a warning, there may be a few spoilers contained in them here and there.

The Kzer-Za
The Pkunk
The VUX
The Arilou
The Spathi
The Mycon
The Syreen
The Chmmr
The Orz
The Utwig
The Doog
The K'tang
The Vyro-Ingo
The Harika and Yorn
The Clairconctlar
The Exquivan
The Daktaklakpak
The Xchaggers
The Owa

*sigh* What a first post to make, huh? Undecided
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Re: Can someone tell me what happened in SC3?
« Reply #24 on: September 17, 2006, 11:43:23 pm »

Those videos are even worse than i thought they would be.

I liked the Orz though.
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« Reply #25 on: September 18, 2006, 01:02:07 am »

What was it about them that you liked? The voice, the puppet, or both?

I like the voice, but I'm a little iffy on the puppet. It's too evil looking for me. I always thought of the Orz as a "race" that are goofy, silly, wierd, and maybe even cute...until you get them talking for long enough. Even then, it's not their voice or strange way of speaking that scares you, but it's what they say.

That's how it was with me, anyway. They were charming little goofballs until they started talking about the *silly cow* Androsynth, and saying things like "Next it is the *party* and you will *become*" and  "enjoy[ing] *the change*". Then I got creeped out.

Maybe I just prefer a more subtle horror.
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Re: Can someone tell me what happened in SC3?
« Reply #26 on: September 18, 2006, 02:24:59 am »

I liked pretty much all of it. The VUX puppet I thought was pretty good, but the voice was... odd.
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Re: Can someone tell me what happened in SC3?
« Reply #27 on: September 18, 2006, 02:26:53 am »

Animatronics.  Rubber puppet thingies with mechanical insides.  I *think* that was what was used, and the effect isn't totally bad for the very alien races, (the VUX, for instance, are given a much more gruesome looks that I found pleasing, and the new alien races can be judged purely on their own merits), but most of the old races (the Syreen, Arilou, Spathi, earthling, mycon, etc.) were not nicely done.  The Ur Quan look rather good however.

You have to realize that animatronics were all the rage back then, particularly for creating creatures that wern't 'humanoid,' that is not capable of being portrayed by an actor with sufficent setup, and was cheaper too.  An experiment if you will, like the expensive movie productions of Wing Commander.  While Wing Commander's movies were successful imagewise, this was not;  While they portray very alien bodies (like the Ur-Quan) well, they do not do well in replacing humanoid looking creatures.

This all was shoved aside when 3d art and computing advanced to the stage where this sort of thing could be made better, and cheaper, so we don't have to worry about a disaster like that happening again.  At least in that form...
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Re: Can someone tell me what happened in SC3?
« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2006, 03:06:08 am »

Good. I always liked the Owa when I was reading about them, but after hearing the voice they sound like they're insane. I suppose they are.

I really liked the Daktaklakpak. They did a good job with them.

I also like the way the Exquivan look, but their heads are always jerking back and forth... they, along with the Arilou, REALLY look their "neck is broken". Quoted from the VUX of sc2. And the Exquivan mouths are bizzare.
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Re: Can someone tell me what happened in SC3?
« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2006, 10:48:59 am »

In SC3 you were chasing ghosts until the very end of the game, where you suddenly met with the Heralds out of the blue (those were one of the more interesting aliens, but they made just a short appearance), and found out that you were fighting Gods that were powerful enough to devour all sentient life in the galaxy. Come on ! I think this is ultra lame, and that it's a shame that I had to play hours to find out about this.
The game itself was about solving lots of minor quests, and to find allies. You don't know why you need these allies, except at the very end of the game, when you suddenly have to hurry to get their help to craft some miracle device that can feed the gods. That is also lame, imo.
So, except for a few of the smaller quests, and some races that were fairly nice (Equivan, Harika), the game was not very good, lacked the nice humor that was present in SC2, and was not worth the money I paid for it. I think it's worth about 2 euro - 1 euro because it's not completely bad and it had some enjoyable moments, enough to keep playing, and 1 more euro for the courage to make a sequel for a game like SC2, which is pretty hard to do imo Wink
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