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Elvish Pillager
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Chmrr > VUX The Chmmr can take major damage, at least if it's not careful.
Melnorme > Umgah A skilled or lucky Umgah that reverses right next to the Melnorme can do serious damage. Melnorme can't really stop that strategy.
Supox > Zoq-Fot-Pik This battle is pretty even. The Supox doesn't even have an advantage.
Syreen > Ilwrath The Syreen is big and doesn't have particularly good acceleration. Ilwrath are very good at gravity whipping.
Thraddash > Ilwrath
Thraddash > VUX Yeah, if you have infinite patience.
Utwig > Chmrr Chmmr can slam Utwig into the planet, or fake Utwig out, or hit it with the tip of its laser when it's not ready. None of these are easy, but Utwig is definitely at high risk in this matchup.
Druuge against Yehat or Utwig. From what I hear, it's pretty easy for Druuge to fake Utwig out.
Androsynth>Chmmr
Spathi>Kohr-Ah
Chenjesu>Druuge
Everyone>Illwrath
Everyone>Umgah You've been playing the AI. Chmmr can avoid bubbles easily, Druuge can avoid DOGIs easily and don't sacrifice crew constantly if they're human, Ilwrath can gravity-whip, have high acceleration, and tend to beat Earthlings even without that, and Umgah's backwards movement is easier to use than you give it credit for.
There's literally nothing that has a guaranteed win against a human-controlled Chmmr Avatar (or at least, against an Elvish Pillager-controlled Chmmr Avatar.)
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My team of four Androsynth and three Chmmr is the most unfair team ever! My mod |
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Death 999
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We did. You did. Yes we can. No.
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Hey, I bet you're the Elvish Pillager from Wesnoth, right? I'm Drachefly there (and nearly everywhere but here). Haven't posted or played in a long time... you might not remember me.
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Shiver
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Flown by a decent player, the Utwig can take almost any ship, particularily the Chmmr.
You CAN beat the Ur Quan with a Measly Zoq Fot Pik ship, it's actually not too hard.
LOLOLOL
This topic gets worse every time someone posts in it. Maybe there needs to be an UQM-Arena topic that doesn't allow posts from people that never visit there, because so far none of these people have shown that they have any idea what they're talking about. EDIT: Death999 hasn't visited UQM-Arena and generally posts good advice.
Let's go over this. Utwig is a decent choice against Chmmr. It is NOT capable of downing every ship in the game in serious PVP. Orz and Druuge will beat it most of the time and VUX will take it down almost always. Yeah, VUX. You kids who keep posting with your experiences against the AI probably aren't familiar with how VUX are a virtually guaranteed win versus Yehat and Utwig. I suspect Supox can beat Utwig with their longer range, but don't quote me on that because I don't use Supox for anything unless I have to. And Zoq > Ur-Quan? Silliest thing I've ever heard.
It had to be said. You guys with minimal experience are running rampant with bad information in every PVP topic that shows up here.
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« Last Edit: February 18, 2007, 08:45:39 pm by Shiver »
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Neonlare
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Nut Case for Star Control
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Well, i've never been on UQM Arena because I can't get online with it, against an Awesome AI Ur Quan, they have no chance, I've also battled a mate of mine at home, and out gunned him with 2 or so tongues.
Your not very nice, are YOU?  .
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Yeah, screw you too. Maybe if someone else tried this, maybe then you could criticise, I'm speaking from experience here, I'm not a "PvP" Newb and if you took offense to the "Your not very nice" statement, then please, I wasn't trying to offend you in any shape or way, it's just something to lighten up a conversation.
*sips tea*
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« Last Edit: February 18, 2007, 09:01:33 pm by Neonlare »
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"would newton's law theory actually work if a Chmmr Avatar did a backwards pelvic thrust towards a planet and would this constitute an X=Y-0 in the part it ran straight into a Supox Blade and lasted long enough to survive?" - Elerium (as Valaggar)
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Shiver
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I'll say it again. If you haven't been playing in UQM-Arena then your advice is bound to be terrible. Why everyone seems to think they're the exception to this, I have no idea. For some perspective, I originally thought I could take down a Kohr-Ah with a Spathi too during my first couple of online matches and was quite pissed after failing to do this 90% of the time. Most of what I know now about melee is based upon my own terrible estimations being proven wrong by trial and error against very skilled players.
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Neonlare
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I'll say it again. If you haven't been playing in UQM-Arena then your advice is bound to be terrible. Why everyone seems to think they're the exception to this, I have no idea. For some perspective, I originally thought I could take down a Kohr-Ah with a Spathi too during my first couple of online matches and was quite pissed after failing to do this 90% of the time. Most of what I know now about melee is based upon my own terrible estimations being proven wrong by trial and error against very skilled players.
Not saying your wrong, but the way you came back in that hostile manner was a bad way of going about things. These forums are about finding people who you have something in common with (in this case Star Control) and talking to them in a civil maner about it. Shooting down people just because you don't share their opinion, and trying to back it up with insults, does not make you any better for it.
They're my experiences, same as everyone elses is theirs, not everyone started the Revolution, and not everyone likes the Pkunk, it's just the way things are. Same as that not everyone has had the same win/loss count against certain ships.
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« Last Edit: February 18, 2007, 09:52:02 pm by Neonlare »
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"would newton's law theory actually work if a Chmmr Avatar did a backwards pelvic thrust towards a planet and would this constitute an X=Y-0 in the part it ran straight into a Supox Blade and lasted long enough to survive?" - Elerium (as Valaggar)
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Valaggar
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The Melnorme are the best against Utwigs. Yeah, I was wrong. You can't even beat the AI with them. This shows how much I fly the Melnorme...
[tests again]
Ah. Well. It depends on the Melnorme's aim. Testing with the AI (Sorry!) I found that the AI Melnorme beats my Utwig, due to its superior aim, but the AI Utwig beats my Melnorme, due to my inferior aim and ship control.
VUX and Orz are the best bets against the Utwig. And the Druuge, if we're not considering a superhuman with superreflexes.
But... about the Druuge... it shot takes the enemy by surprise mostly by its dark red color. You can mod its color without losing sync if you don't overlap the transparent pixels, so this would take some of the Druuge's effectiveness. I believe. My opinion.
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« Last Edit: February 19, 2007, 02:16:09 pm by Valaggar »
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