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Question: which race would you surrender too?
Ur-Quan   -7 (20.6%)
Umgah   -2 (5.9%)
Spathi   -16 (47.1%)
Vux   -0 (0%)
Mycon   -1 (2.9%)
Ilwrath   -0 (0%)
I would fight to the death.   -8 (23.5%)
Androsynth   -0 (0%)
Total Voters: 32

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Re: Terms of surrender.
« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2007, 06:13:08 am »

By the way, a "fight to the death" option seems tangential to the subject. This topic would be better if the urge to say "I would FIGHT to the DEATH and take as many of them WITH ME because there's A MAN COMIN' THRU, HELL YEAH" was not present to tempt readers into lowering the level of discourse.
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Re: Terms of surrender.
« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2007, 04:27:39 pm »

How come there is no 'Flee your ass the hell out of the Sector' option?
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« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2007, 06:58:44 pm »

Because the idea is that you are either surrounded or out of fuel.
Plus, everybody would have voted that option.
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« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2007, 07:44:15 pm »

How come there is no 'Flee your ass the hell out of the Sector' option?

And go where? You'll run out of fuel eventually.
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« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2007, 01:46:21 am »

How come there is no 'Flee your ass the hell out of the Sector' option?

For the same reason that "fight to the death" is bad for the topic.
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« Reply #20 on: April 01, 2007, 06:05:39 am »

Look like I'm a little late for the party. Oops.

...Well, this is an easy question for me to answer, so I think I'll just go through all the other options too and share with you why I didn't pick them. You know, just to make it interesting.

"I would fight to the death!" : I'm not very comfortable with death. Oh sure, this might be the "brave and heroic martyr" thing to do, but I value my life just a liiiiiiittle too much to go this route. Plus, the Kzer-Za's idea of slavery is pretty darn cushy, all things considered.

The Androsynth: This wouldn't end well.

"I've talked it over with my crew. We've decided to surrender to you, Androsynth captain."
"Yeah, about that... Remember that time that your grandparents used us as slaves, genetically castrated us, persecuted us, and basically treated us as lesser-than-second-class citizens?"
"We kinda thought you'd have, uh, forgiven us for that and let bygones be bygones by now."
"..."
"Does it help if we say that we're really, really sorry?"
"...No."
*BOOM!*

The Ilwrath: The only people who would surrender to the Ilwrath would be the clinically insane. I don't know about you, but I don't like the idea of being strung up by web-fluid, scalded, and slowly cut open while conscious and then messily eviscerated until my intestines are all strewn about the room and I've been drained of all blood. Or worse.

The Ilwrath don't take prisoners, they take sacrifices.

The Mycon: The best case scenario is that you are Voided for being Non. The worst case scenario is that they find you useful in some way and force you to become part of Juffo-Wup. I have a really scary and horrible mental image of this. Living, yet not...

The VUX: Taking prisoners is not an option. Handing you over to the Kzer-Za is not an option. They will kill you, but at least it'll be a quick death. After all, they don't want to have to look at you longer than they need to, right?

Of course, you could always surrender to ZEX. I'm sure he'd treat humans very, VERY well. Wink

The Spathi: Surrendering to a Spathi seemed like a tempting idea to me at first, but unless you handled the situation carefully there's a strong chance that it'll all go wrong. What if you made them nervous and they accidentally hit the weapons button? What if they didn't trust you enough and fired upon you to defend themselves? What if they called for help from another, more hostile Hierarchy race? What if you scared them so much that they went into a panic long enough for renforcements to arrive?

I love those little guys, and they might mean well, but they're not the most reliable people when it comes to stuff like this. Look at what happened to the poor Algolites, for example.

The Umgah: Even if you surrendered to them, what makes you think that it's going to go entirely in your favor? The Umgah love making trouble and spreading chaos. Humans, I'm sure, aren't an exception from this. They may take you in now in order to pull a hilarious joke on the Kzer-Za, but what's to stop them afterwards from...oh, I dunno...genetically modifying you into a human/VUX hybrid and setting you loose on the VUX homeworld? "Har! Har! Har! Funny joke!"

The Kzer-Za: This is the option I chose in the end. They're true to their word ("Human. We Ur-Quan never lie. NEVER! It is a weakness to lie and, as you have noticed, the Ur-Quan are not weak!") and quite fair, really. They'll take you prisoner and, when they win the first war, will ship you off back to Earth and slave shield the place. As long as we don't try to kill ourselves, escape the shield, or form a resistance, they basically leave us alone.

It's much nicer than being dead.

Edit: Oh man, this looked so much shorter when I was typing it up. Sorry, guys.
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Re: Terms of surrender.
« Reply #21 on: April 01, 2007, 09:32:48 pm »

I'd surrender to the Mycon on the .0001% chance that the fungus was telling the truth and unity with juffo-wup is the way to spiritual enlightenment.

Of course, if I could surrender to ZEX personally, well, that would be a little more interesting, if a little more mortifying, than death itself =P
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« Reply #22 on: April 02, 2007, 02:47:38 pm »

In fact, it's indeed best to surrender to the Mycon. After all, you WILL be happy and more fulfilled... lack of knowledge means lack of unhappiness. It's better to be a happy fungus than a sad humanoid.
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« Reply #23 on: April 02, 2007, 04:36:06 pm »

I grow turgid with excitment....wait, wait that came out wrong...
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« Reply #24 on: April 02, 2007, 06:01:56 pm »

Tsing doesn't seem to be around so here I go:
<Vietnamese accent>
Juffo-Wup fills in my fibers and I grow turgid. Violent action ensues.
</Vietnamese accent. Sorry, guys! That's all!>
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« Reply #25 on: May 11, 2007, 03:31:53 pm »

U-Quan:
I probably would surrender to Ur-Quan, if they would take me to my homeworld (which is probably  under the slave shield (As a human, my homeworld shold be..))

Umgah:
Why not. If they're not going to kill me, they're probably going to 'play' with me and my body parts, so it might be fun (assuming that I wouldn't feel any pain)

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Actually I don't think that they would kill me. At least not right away. But as coward spathis, they would 1) bring me to the ur-quans 2) Kill me while I'm sleeping - they don't want to take any risks..  so I wouldn't surrender to Spathi

Vux:
Hell no! They would kill me anyway.

Mycon:
I would most probably surrender to mycon.
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In fact, it's indeed best to surrender to the Mycon. After all, you WILL be happy and more fulfilled
I agree.. Besides you will have a long life Tongue

Ilwrath :
If I would surrender to Ilwrath, they would sacrifise me to dogar and kazor -> pain -> no thanks

I would fight to the death

Androsynth:

Hmm. Maybe I would surrender to them. If they kill me, no can do, if they torture me, shit happens but maybe I could make them not to hate humans so much, if they don't kill me right away


sry for bumping this old (?) topic but it was just so interesting that i had to answer. After all, topics like this will never die!
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« Reply #26 on: May 11, 2007, 04:10:23 pm »

I'd have to surrender to the Spathi. Certainly, there are risks of doing so, but I have a plan that would raise my chances of success. Basically, you'd have to manipulate them and exploit their fears. Build up something else as being terribly evil and scary (when really, it's a sheep or something) and promise to defend all of Spathi from this menace as their personal bodyguard. They would probably be eternally grateful to you for protecting them and would not turn you over to the Ur-Quan. On the off chance they DID turn you over to the Ur-Quan, what's going to happen to you? You'll be put back on earth under a slave shield, which is as pleasant a Plan B as one could hope for in this situation.
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« Reply #27 on: May 11, 2007, 05:25:53 pm »

The Spathi are cowards but they're also highly intelligent. If you try to spook them while you're their prisoner, they'll probably just kill you.
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« Reply #28 on: May 12, 2007, 02:42:18 am »

Highly intelligent? Explain "The Ultimate EVIL" situation to me, making them sound highly intelligent.
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« Reply #29 on: May 12, 2007, 02:59:55 am »

Highly intelligent? Explain "The Ultimate EVIL" situation to me, making them sound highly intelligent.

They went from being one step above cavemen to a space faring race in like 50 years according to they story. That = highly intelligent.
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