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Re: Tips for all newbies
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2003, 11:55:31 pm »

Heh don't feel bad. That Robot is the Slylandro, and they're one of the nastier races to fight in the game (imho) ESPECIALLY if all you have is the Earthling cruiser or a low-power mothership.

To make the robots go bye bye, you need to find out who's sending them, and go deal with that at the source. I won't tell you exactly who or where that is, but somebody else might ;P

A cpl other tips for newbies, in addition to the very fine hints above:

- Always explore all the conversation branches with the species you encounter, and resist the urge to be a punkass. You can get a LOT of info right from the starbase commander at the beginning, which will guide you to other places to look, which will in turn give you more info...

- Go for the Melnorme technology as fast as you can. Most of what they have is invaluable. (Who are the Melnorme? heh, heh)

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« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2003, 04:41:26 am »

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What? You have to thrust forward and then live with the momentum you've gotten? Or is it the abrupt maximum speed problem?

Are you using the supox blade or the slylandro probe or arilou skiff? Those have different maneuvering characteristics.

Just remember that to slow down you're going to have to turn around ahead of time.
If you're cooking along at max speed far from the planet, you can turn by continuing to thrust and turn.

Also, perhaps you're experiencing key jamming?


I think perhaps I might be experiencing key jamming. It seems to me that when I press the left or right arrow keys, it takes a while for the game to respond. (Sort've like the delay when typing before a key repeats.)..

But theoretically, even an inexperienced player should be able to win the super-melee, if they set the AI to "Weak Cyborg", correct?
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« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2003, 06:16:21 am »

The Starbase Captain gives you this mnemonic:

Very Young Orangatanes Can Grow Bananas Perhaps Rather Well

In case you haven't figured it out, it stands for

Violet Yellow Orange Cyan Green Blue Pink Red White

It's the colors of the planets you should mine, starting from most valuable to least valuable. Smiley
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« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2003, 02:52:41 pm »

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Ignore all Commons and Corrosives (Blue and Red minerals). They are a waste of cargo space.

I agree 100%

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Valuable Green and Yellow planets of all sizes tend to be either Lithium (Forgot name?)

You meant Lanthanide ... filled with rare-earth (green).

Personally, I never leave a world unchecked (except for gas giants).  You never know what you might find.  For the most part, what you say is true, but you just never know.

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Atmosphere: Is there one, and a deciding factor on the availability of life.

Weather: How many bolts of lightning per second. ;P

Temperature: Anything at 100 or above will cause hotspots.

Tectonics: 1 is minimal. 10 is like the Kobe Earthquake x 5

The other stuff isn't too important.

I disagree.  You should pay attention to gravity ... it directly affects fuel consumption for your lander.  Most of the information is based on Earth as a standard with values of 1.0.  In terms of weather, that's not true.  Worlds with a rating of 2 or lower for weather and/or tectonics will not have any lightning or earthquakes.  Also, I believe the scales for tectonics and weather are from 0-8.  I've never seen a world above 8 ... Shattered Worlds are all about tectonic instability and they are set at 8.

Although the Dill-rats are good for a few laughs, they are more trouble then you claim.  You really do need to get rid of them eventually, especially if you want to pick up the aqua helix without interference and get help from the Chmmr.

I really think you should be actively playing the game before you start dealing out the hints to any one new.  Too much of what you said is inaccurate.

zixyer - I think you meant Purple and not pink ... I've never seen a pink world.  Aside from that, I don't trust the complete accuracy of this in game hint.  Some red worlds are Ruby or Radioactive and these hold some of the most valuable minerals in the game.  Also, as ranmafan stated, some yellow worlds are Urea, which tend to be worthless (unless they have Bios).

I wrote extensively on all of this in a topic called "colors and mining".
http://uqm.stack.nl/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Gendiscuss;action=display;num=1039125066#12

Check it out.  I noticed in there that I never had Purple (the letter "P") in the planet color list.  Either I didn't write down the mnemonic correctly or I just ignored it ... seriously, who here can distinguish Violet from Purple, especially in a game with a limited palette.  And since I found this "hint" to be generally unhelpful anyway, I didn't really care.

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Re: Tips for all newbies
« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2003, 06:09:07 pm »

Been playing the game since I got my first 286. I'm sorry if my memory is foggy, but in my own experience, the hints have gotten me very far very fast.

I'm also speaking from the PC experience.

Hm, you're right though, the scale is only from 1-8. Sorry.

But as for 1 having NO earthquakes, you're wrong. For weather, you're right about 1 having no lightning. But as for tectonics, even a 1 will result in minimal earthquakes. They are VERY rare and because they are scattered around the planet, you may never encounter one.

I didn't mention anything about Gravity. But good point there.

I mentioned medium sized red worlds are very valuable. Small red worlds are rarely, if ever, radioactive worlds. These have such small yields I normally discard them as a waste of resources. Mostly, you get Dust worlds, Carbide worlds, Infrared worlds, Crimson worlds, or other similarly worthless planet.

Purple and Violet are the same thing. Violet is the graphic designer's/artist's term for Purple. I've never encountered many valuable small purple worlds, although they still contain rare minerals, again, small yields are not worth it.

Hm, the Dill-Rats are not critical to finishing the game... I DID get the Aqua Helix without trouble, once your mothership is fully upgraded. But I agree that they make your life much easier. Still....

Scott: Thanks for clearing that up.

The Umgah can be found in the general area around the Orion system. You can buy the information of where the talking pet is off the Melnorme, I think. Again, fuzzy memory.

Well, cheers.
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« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2003, 04:06:46 am »

DO NOT FORGET!!- AS SOON AS YOU CAN get the tracker system for your ship's guns! if you go into combat without em, almost anyone can wipe you out!
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« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2003, 04:48:05 am »

Not if you, say, know how to aim. Not to be rude, but it can be done. Even by newbies.
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« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2003, 11:07:59 am »

Hi - Newbie question:

I've accidentally killed the shofixit guy -- is there anyway to get him back or am I going to have to start all over again if i want to get him alive again?

Thanks! =)
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« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2003, 11:37:48 am »

Load a saved game, there's no other way, I haven't killed him yet, but I did once on a whim. The moron actually attacked me, stupid stupid little creatures. I quickly melted his ship into molten slag.
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« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2003, 03:22:46 pm »

Actually i think there are two surviving shofixti, Tanaka and Katana, and the second one will show up if you end up killing the first one... (once the first Shofixti dide by flying into the planet while i was warping out of combat)
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« Reply #25 on: January 16, 2003, 06:34:07 pm »

Indeed. Katana will AFAIK show up after getting the other part of the... erm. He will not be happy.
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« Reply #26 on: January 16, 2003, 10:42:21 pm »

They're right.  Don't bother loading the game.  Just keep playing as though Tanaka were still alive, and do the rest of the quest, then come back to Tanaka's star system and the rest will take care of itself.
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« Reply #27 on: January 17, 2003, 02:05:57 pm »

 Cheesy

Thank you all for your help! It is much appreciated (as now i realize i DON'T have to start all the way from the beginning again seeing as I didn't have a saved game that i could go back to!) =)



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Can't find Vega
« Reply #28 on: January 18, 2003, 02:15:37 am »

I can't find the system vega. May someone please help me? Huh
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« Reply #29 on: January 18, 2003, 03:16:16 am »

Ok I managed it. Cu
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