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Valaggar
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I know... we might have to half the differences between the ship values, or something. Alas, at least let's finish the tests!



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Valaggar
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Values corrected (UrQuan beats Earthling, in fact):
VUX 19.5 Ilwrath 23.5 Umgah 6 UrQuan 62 Slylandro 60 Earthling 24.5 Shofixti 17 KohrAh 80 Thraddash 1.5 Utwig 58
Thanks to Cedric6014, who has shown me my error.


« Last Edit: April 07, 2007, 09:46:21 am by Valaggar »

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Shiver
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Cedric's last set of ship values looks okay. I have no idea what Valaggar is doing.



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Valaggar
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I'm doing the following: To find out the value of each ship, try all 25 matchups for that ship and write down: 3 if the current ship will lose without inflicting any damage 2.5 lose with minor damage to enemy 2 lose with half damage to enemy 1.5 lose with much damage to enemy 0 equal matchup 1.5 win with much damage sustained 2 win with half damage sustained 2.5 win with little damage sustained 3 win with no damage sustained.
Then add all these values.
Now, the cheapest ship (turned out to be the Thraddash) will be a negative value, for example 51; to fix this, add +53 to every value and the cheapest one will be +2.



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Valaggar
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Arilou: UrQuan 1 Chmmr 2 KohrAh 1.5 Chenjesu 1.5 Orz 1.5 Yehat 1.5 Utwig 2 Mycon +2 Pkunk 0 Mmrnmhrm 2 Melnorme 1 Spathi +1 Druuge +2 Slylandro 2 Supox 1 Arilou 0 Androsynth 1 Syreen 0.5 Earthling 0.5 VUX 1 Ilwrath 0 ZoqFotPik +1 Shofixti 0 Umgah +0.5 Thraddash +2
Sum is 21.5, value is 21.5 + 55 = 33.5
VUX 19.5 Ilwrath 23.5 Umgah 6 UrQuan 65 Slylandro 60 Earthling 23 Shofixti 17 KohrAh 81 Thraddash 2 Utwig 58 Arilou 33.5


« Last Edit: April 08, 2007, 09:24:42 am by Valaggar »

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Shiver
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I'm doing the following: To find out the value of each ship, try all 25 matchups for that ship and write down: 3 if the current ship will lose without inflicting any damage 2.5 lose with minor damage to enemy 2 lose with half damage to enemy 1.5 lose with much damage to enemy 0 equal matchup 1.5 win with much damage sustained 2 win with half damage sustained 2.5 win with little damage sustained 3 win with no damage sustained.
Then add all these values.
Now, the cheapest ship (turned out to be the Thraddash) will be a negative value, for example 51; to fix this, add +53 to every value and the cheapest one will be +2.
That's Awesome AI vs Awesome AI, isn't it? That's a bit pointless. The computer is nothing like an amateur player, who in turn is nothing like a veteran player.



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Valaggar
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No, it's not Awesome vs Awesome. It's many things  me vs Awesome, me vs hotseat, me vs me, me vs my brain... I'd like someone to point my mistakes, though.



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Valaggar
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ZoqFotPik: UrQuan 2 Chmmr 2 KohrAh 2 Chenjesu 1.5 Orz 2 Yehat +1 Utwig 1 Mycon 2 Pkunk 1 Mmrnmhrm 1.5 Melnorme 2 Spathi 2 Druuge 0.5 Slylandro 1 Supox 1 Arilou 1 Androsynth 1 Syreen 2 Earthling +0.5 VUX +2 Ilwrath +2 ZoqFotPik 0 Shofixti +1 Umgah +2 Thraddash +1.5
Sum is 24.5, value is 30.5;
VUX 19.5 Ilwrath 23.5 Umgah 6 UrQuan 65 Slylandro 60 Earthling 23 Shofixti 15.5 KohrAh 91 Thraddash 2 Utwig 58 Arilou 36 ZoqFotPik 30.5


« Last Edit: April 08, 2007, 01:32:15 pm by Valaggar »

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Valaggar
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In fact, the Zoq can spit further than the Yehat and than VUX. Fot can avoid the 'Wrath gravity whip. Umgah can't possibly be so good. But yes, the Mycon can gun you down. Corrected.
Chmmr: UrQuan 0 Chmmr 0 KohrAh 0 Chenjesu +1 Orz 1.5 Yehat +2 Utwig +1 Mycon +1.5 Pkunk +1 Mmrnmhrm +1.5 Melnorme +1.5 Spathi +2 Druuge 1 Slylandro +2 Supox 0.5 Arilou +2 Androsynth +0.5 Syreen +2 Earthling +2 VUX +1 Ilwrath +2 ZoqFotPik +2 Shofixti +1 Umgah +2 Thraddash +2
Sum is +43, value is 98.
VUX 19.5 Ilwrath 23.5 Umgah 6 UrQuan 65 Slylandro 60 Earthling 23 Shofixti 15.5 KohrAh 94.5 Thraddash 2 Utwig 58 Arilou 36 ZoqFotPik 30.5 Chmmr 98


« Last Edit: April 08, 2007, 03:49:17 pm by Valaggar »

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