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Recommenedations for a beginner?
« on: April 22, 2007, 07:31:04 pm »

Im extremely mind numbingly new to the whole Star Control thing, and after getting the space station near earth to help me out I am extremely knocked back by the difficulty of combat and exploration it seems 98% theplanets i visit are uninhabited, then i run out of fuel, then i get attacked by one of those space probes which promptly whoops my butt. So I was  wondering wether there was some sort of MANUAL or some such thing that i skipped by in my newbish rush for help (yes ive looked over the wiki) or maybe just a little bit of starter advice from salty space-dogs.
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« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2007, 07:36:33 pm »

I would start out by mining first, then building up your flagship. You don't want to be heading out into the far unknown until you have at least 100 units of fuel. Head to the Giclas constellation and you will meet some very friendly aliens. I would also recommend visiting the Androsynth stars.
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« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2007, 07:46:27 pm »

First of all, allow me to congratulate you for choosing The Ur-Quan Masters. This really shows that you are an intelligent person.

First point fively, I will direct you to Abandonia's copy of the Star Control 2 manual: http://www.abandonia.com/extras/Star%20Control%202_Manual.zip and its copy of the Star Control 2 starmap: http://www.abandonia.com/extras/Star%20Control%202_Starmap.jpg (which also contains the Spheres of Influence of some races, if you zoom in closer).

Secondly, I will ask you a question: Have you looked at the Non-Spoiler Hints on the wiki (the Ultronomicon)? They should answer your question:

1) Practice the game in Super Melee
2*) Ask Commander Hayes for some info on alien races, it's funny, though not required.
3) Probes can be killed with your Earthling Cruiser by shooting it with the nukes first, then using the point defense to get rid of its last hitpoints.
4) Your Ion-Bolt Gun can be sold, it's usually best to do so. Aim to buy some thrusters, first of all, then an extra Storage Bay.
5) Scavenge the Solar System for resources
6) Visit the surrounding star systems for resources
7) Don't pick up unvaluable minerals - common and corrosives can be left out.
8) It may be worth the effort to mine hostile worlds, but you must pick something and take off quickly, before your lander is destroyed - you can use multiple landings, but remember that fuel is expensive.
9) Alien races are not meant to be discovered by blind exploring, but by clue exploitation.
10) Don't forget to pick up whatever gives you an energy reading when scanned (i.e. the last part of the Autoscan, i.e. the Energy scan).
11) Be friendly to aliens and try to learn as much as you can from them even if they're hostiles.
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« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2007, 08:16:18 pm »

Alright thanks alot, hopefully star control 2 will tide me over till mass effect comes out.
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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2007, 08:50:15 pm »

Star Control 2 has a good chance of being way better - more humor, more imagination, simpleness, deep universe leaving place for a lot of speculation...
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« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2007, 08:54:15 pm »

Er, dont mean to offend but shouldnt that be "Has a good chance of" rather than "is"?
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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2007, 11:06:32 pm »

My adivice: Save. Alot.
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« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2007, 01:05:16 am »

Talk to everyone, all the time, even if you know they're just going to attack you at the end of the conversation.  Even if you think you've seen all the dialog options, you might not have.

If combat continues to kick your butt even after practicing in Super Melee, you might want to turn on cyborg mode, where the computer fights for you (I'm pretty sure you can still use Esc to warp out, though).  Game-->Settings-->Cyborg.  I think Cyborg+ is the same thing sped up and Cyborg++ is just way sped up.  If you practice, though, you'll probably be able to do better than Cyborg and lose fewer ships.

(You can also practice by saving at the beginning of each encounter and doing it over and over until you get it right/satisfactory.)

Yeah, you'll probably want to save.  There are some places where you can kind of screw yourself over or at least make things harder later on, if you do them wrong.  Also, there's a time limit.

When you're doing your mining, when you come across planets with lifeforms, shoot and collect them.  You'll want them later on.  Speaking of mining, read this.

Go back to talk to Hayes whenever you're in the neighborhood; he delivers some of the clues.  Usually "There's a transmission coming from [star system], maybe you should check it out".

You've explored the entire local solar system, right?  You didn't say.

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« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2007, 02:17:20 am »

Alright, yea some transmission from the Rigel System just came in from Hayes, and I just recruited an exceedingly annoying Spathi into my fleet from pluto, thanks. Oh and BTW isnt hayes kind of a jerk? I mean i lost five crew members trying to get some minerals and all he can say is "Hm not alot of minerals this time captain" Things are going along jusssssssssssssssssssst fine now.
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« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2007, 02:37:22 am »

:O Fwiffo?Huh ANNOYING?? Thats cold man, thats cold
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« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2007, 02:40:31 am »

I concur.  How could anyone not love Fwiffo?  Unless they have no soul?
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« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2007, 03:35:39 am »

If combat continues to kick your butt even after practicing in Super Melee, you might want to turn on cyborg mode, where the computer fights for you (I'm pretty sure you can still use Esc to warp out, though).  Game-->Settings-->Cyborg.  I think Cyborg+ is the same thing sped up and Cyborg++ is just way sped up.  If you practice, though, you'll probably be able to do better than Cyborg and lose fewer ships.
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I wouldn't use the Cyborg unless you're really desperate. The AI isn't going to do you any special favors when you come across a Probe or group of alien thugs. Save, and practice, practice, practice...
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« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2007, 03:52:39 am »

If combat continues to kick your butt even after practicing in Super Melee, you might want to turn on cyborg mode, where the computer fights for you (I'm pretty sure you can still use Esc to warp out, though).  Game-->Settings-->Cyborg.  I think Cyborg+ is the same thing sped up and Cyborg++ is just way sped up.  If you practice, though, you'll probably be able to do better than Cyborg and lose fewer ships.
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I wouldn't use the Cyborg unless you're really desperate. The AI isn't going to do you any special favors when you come across a Probe or group of alien thugs. Save, and practice, practice, practice...

Yeah, it's more, ah, RU-intensive.  Tongue  But if you really want to avoid fighting...
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« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2007, 02:47:57 pm »

Fwiffo may be annoying if you don't have time to listen to him - you can't save in the middle of a conversation (hee-lloooo?! Core team? When will this be implemented?) and his conversation is LONG.

Hayes - a jerk? Well, he's just a soldier - win above everything. Though he CARES about crew - you'll see this later on.
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« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2007, 05:08:30 pm »

Well, you can skip conversations....
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